Maybin's been invisible for 3 weeks. He led the team is sacks last year, how come he isn't getting used?
The Jets need to stop the run. When they can do that they'll start to get some sacks. They've had 102 drop backs by opposing QB's so far and 97 rushes against. You want to get sacks? Then stop the run and put the opponent in passing situations where you can tee off.
He didn't get much PT against the Steelers because the coaching staff didn't like the size matchup he would have been up against. Whatever the hell that means. Why he didn't get much PT on Sunday is not something I have read about yet.
I feel like I've noticed Maybin on the field a lot more than Coples but I don't know if that's actually the case or just my impression. Either way, neither of them has made a single big play that I can remember. I agree with the OP, this D line was the most hyped up part of the team coming into the season and so far they've looked very unable to put any significant pressure on the QB. Where's the vaunted Rex Ryan D that we were expecting?
Snap counts can be misleading for players who only come in on passing downs. Coples needs to be a 3 down player. DeVito is a great run stuffer, but provides no pass rush and is rarely in the backfield. I want to see much more of Coples.
There is absolutely nothing misleading about snap counts in the context of the post I responded to. Maybin has fewer snaps than Coples.
Yeah, I was thinking more in terms of sack numbers and pressure. My bad. Players who just come in on 3rd down can still put up good numbers because they just pin their ears back and get after the QB.
Part of the issue is the Jets can't get their pass rushers on the field. Teams are running so easily on the Jets, why bother even engaging the best part of their defense..the secondary? This forces the Jets to keep the 2 gappers in to try & set the line of scrimmage.Problem is..Jets aren't really losing the line of scrimmage, their Lbs are just way too slow to their fills,specifically on the perimeter. The LBS still have parts of ther game that make them good football players. But they aren't gonna work in a read & react system. Rex needs to go back to being aggressive. Get these younger,faster players that may not be as big shoot some 1 gaps & disrupt the timing of offenses. Jets still have the dogs to do it. Will Rex make the move?
I don'g know but aren't you concerned that he's not even able to get on the filed. Its one thing not to have outstanding production. That sometimes takes time (see Rodney McLain from TB who is just NOW in his 3rd year showing the kind of promise that made him a top 5 draft pick) But not being good enough to even get on the field in a regular rotation would piss the hell out of me. Coples just isn't "just" a draft pick. He's the #16 pick in the entire draft, the 9th defensive player taken. He's got 4 years of guanteed money.....and he is playing just 20% of the snaps. That is NOT good by any way of looking at it. What happened to the guy who led the entire league in sacks in preseason. Is he even taking a regular turn on special teams? Now both our teams have a lot to be concerned with at this stage of the season. It hasn't been perfect of Hightower, Jones, Wilson and Ebner either, but at least they are out there getting regular turns and showing some flashes. Do you have some info that would help explain his absence. LT?
I don't remember if it was Rex or Petine that said he was swimming on some of the defenses in preseason and so they cut his time back to the packages he was comfortable with. That's not uncommon for a rookie. He also has some pretty good players in front of him on the depth chart. It's not like the Patriots d-line where any 1st round DE was basically going to step in by default and be taking all the snaps right away. I haven't seen much of the Pats outside the Ravens game but it looks like they're mostly in a 4-3 front and aren't as complex in the front 7 as the Jets defense. That's not a shot at Jones as he's looked much better than I ever thought he would, it's just the truth of the situation. Am I concerned? A little ... I'd like to see him prove he understands the defense well enough to get on the field more. I think the Jets need him out there more now than ever.
Remember Coples WAS ill during practice this week, I'm wondering (hoping) that this might have had an effect on his snap count.
That's what I was thinking. Who the hell is Rodney Mclain??? http://www.tampacriminals.com/Mugshots/Joseph_rodney_mclain/765531-4bd9228afded848ffeb69b8225c77a43
First off as for McCoy for TB, he ended up injured alot so he missed a ton of games (torn bicep etc). And how about Coples is a 4-3 DL, and the Jets play a 3-4 ? My best guess is the Jets are clearly transitioning to a 4-3 (with moves like Coples and Davis), but we dont have the linebackers for a 4-3 (Pace, Scott, BT etc poor fits). Were using Coples sparingly with our limited 4-3 formations (which we used alot less than expected) while he learns from Rex/Pettine and its pretty obvious that Pace and Scott are both getting cut after this season. So it only makes sense to me that the Jets are using this year as a learning year for Coples, and next year, with Pace/Scott presumably gone (and Pouha our 3-4 NT PROBABLY gone either after this or after next year) the Jets will be following through with that transition to the 4-3 meaning far more playing time for guys like Coples and Davis. Im sure there might be other factors playing into his play time as well, but im absolutely CERTAIN this is one of the biggest ones
Coples has played primarily in the 4-3 as a DE and or DT. Hopefully Rex wants him to focus on being the solution to our passrushing woes, which is why he would have him focus primarily on the 4-3, since the 3-4 his job would me to primarily eat up blockers and not to rush the passer.
Its absurd how much devito is playing. Hes a solid backup, how many times last week was devito and pouha on the field for third downs? Extremely frustrating, Eillis and couples should be on the field for every third down over the other two guys.
