Can't expect another "Sack Exchange", but I sure would settle for consistent pressure on QB's with a good number of sacks. Seems like forever since the Jets had a regular pass rush without exotic blitz packages.
First post ever. I appreciate the passion! IMO the "Sack Exchange" isn't gonna happen, and it doesn't need to. If the line stays intact, D.Davis develops like everyone is counting on, and (I hate the 'and') someone emerges as or we sign/we draft an edge LB, this might be a front seven that creates it's own moniker. Football and baseball are not un-like it terms of defense; strong up the middle. Pouha is Kelly Gregg is Sam Adams is Pat Williams for this line. Wilk and Coples are less occupied before my next thought. Wilk is a Pre-soph (and Ellis) on this grading curve. Wilk gave us a poor man's Shawn Ellis last year as a 21yr old rookie with no offseason, and no proven example ahead of him. K.Ellis is raw, but he looks like he can play. The offseason is paramount for a player like him (I would say the same for Ducasse). Ellis as a change of pace DT? I'm liking his value. Coples is a difference maker anyway you look at it. Either he performs to his potential and this conversation never needs a "and" or he's Jeff Lagaman, and... DeVito...every team in the league would take this guy. He does anything the team asks and does it somewhat seamlessly. He'll play every spot on the DL this year and he'll play them well! The LB's are an issue. I like Davis. I think he's got a chance to be a diff-maker. I think Harris is a perfect example for his growth. "see what David just did? Multiply it by your speed and athleticism". Harris has 4 picks this year, and Davis had 2. But Davis scored on one and wasn't dragged down @ the forty by Kevin Faulk, but pushed out at the 7 by Welker. Thomas holds the edge; he's the result of McFadden. Pace has his moments, and i think he's an asset, but not for the cost. His window closed when Kris Jenkins' went down the first time. Bart and Maybin? I don't know. I can't trust Maybin because of what I haven't seen, and Bart because of what I have. I think we might see more from a Rex Ryan Front 7 than we ever have..."and" that's saying enough.
There will never be another SACK EXCHANGE . Joe Klecko is one of a kind . He should be in the hall of fame .
i am not sure i understand were this optimism is coming from. I can agree that we have young, athletic and interesting names on paper. But set aside that it is too early to judge, even the first pre-season game we didn't create much pressure on Dalton. Pretty much all blitzes were picked up or too late and ineffective.
oh i agree but if this unit progresses and ryan is still the head coach 2 years out - then i have no doubt it will be the strongest part of the team and possibly the AFC..... as was the original sack exchange. the linebackers were pretty good but the secondary was below average - even with pass rush - thats what killed the jets, along with injuries, in the early-mid 80's can u imagine our secondary with that front four......
It's a young defensive line with three high draft picks (Coples, Mowilk, Maybin) and Ellis who probably would have gone much higher if not for the off field problems. We know Coples and Wilkerson have the talent and size to be very good defensive lineman in the NFL. With Rex coaching them I don't really see a cap on how good they might be one day. And both are two way players, they can play run, rush the QB, 1 gap, 2 gap. Coples can play inside or outside which really gives you scheme flexibility. Maybin is really the X-factor. Is he big enough to really be an every down player? Does he have an inside move? If he can't do these things then he just becomes a situational player that the Pats will expose with the no huddle. The Jets have to play 11 guys out there who can play the run or the pass so that Brady doesn't go no huddle and kill them. Ellis is really an unknown at this point but I like Rex's ability to judge defensive lineman and I'm willing to bet that he turns into a very good interior lineman. These guys are all young and and they probably need another edge rusher to really make the group effective. If Coples and Wilkerson demand double teams on the interior it's going to make it very interesting for whoever is rushing off the edge.
I do not disagree that after one game annointing this defensive front as the new Sack Exchange is a little much. But it is nice to have something positive to talk about firsrt preseason game.
The potential is certainly there. There is a lot of good, young talent on the front end of this defense. If they can put it together is could be very exciting.
Don't forget that we actually have a real DL coach this year in Dunbar. No disrespect to Mark Carrier intended, but he was coaching out of his comfort zone.
xxedge72, respectfully, while I saw young #93 sticking his nose in the pile at times, I didn't really see him causing havoc per se. On the contrary, his burst at the snap didn't seem all that explosive and on several occassions, Ellis' man got "lower" and stopped Kenrick's forward surge, i.e. he was "stood up" and reduced to using choppy, almost running-in-place steps. While it was later in the game and admittedly against the Cincy scrubs, Martin Tevaseu looked a tad quicker off the snap with an occassional good surge, again admittedly against the 2's & 3's. Don't get me wrong, I've really liked the Jets grabbing Ellis in the 3rd round (as much as I hated cimini's "druggie" swipe). I was impressed with Kenrick after seeing him (Hampton vs. Del. St.) and after his very impressive Senior Bowl performance (also heard he was blowing up OL's the week of practice leading up to the game) . Still glad they drafted him...and it's still very early...I'm just hoping to eventually see him really blowing up OL's. I just haven't quite seen it ....not yet anyway.
Klecko...that type of player does not even exist anymore. Those other 3 had great strengths but 73 was one of the best players ever to wear the colors. An absolute pleasure to root for and watch...a player that made you very proud to be a Jet fan because everyone respected the crap out of him...he just shut his mouth and punished people every week. Never heard a peep from him.
For those too young to remember. From Wikipedia- In 1981, during a game at Shea Stadium, a fan held up a bedsheet on which he had scrawled "New York Sack Exchange." Jets public relations director Frank Ramos used the nickname in a press release and it was soon picked up by the media. All four members of the Sack Exchange were drafted by the Jets in the 1970's. Salaam, a defensive tackle, was drafted in the 7th round (188th overall) by the Jets in 1976. Klecko, a defensive end, was a 6th round pick (144th overall) in 1977. Lyons, a defensive tackle, was a first round pick (14th overall) in 1979, while Gastineau, a defensive end, was selected with the Jets' second round selection in that draft (41st overall). "It wasn't a question of whether we'd get to the quarterback, it was how many times."–Marty Lyons In November 1981, Gastineau, Klecko, Salaam and Lyons were invited to ring the ceremonial opening bell at the New York Stock Exchange, which served as the inspiration for their nickname. Gastineau and Klecko competed to see which defensive end could record the most sacks. In 1981, the Jets led the league with 66 sacks. The Jets reached the 1982 AFC Championship Game. Salaam was traded after the 1983 season. However, Gastineau, Klecko, and Lyons continued to have success for several years, with Gastineau and Klecko making two more Pro Bowls apiece. Lyons, the last active member of the Sack Exchange, retired after the 1990 season. The prowess of the New York Sack Exchange, and New York Giants rookie linebacker Lawrence Taylor, caused the NFL to start counting Quarterback sacks as a statistic. And yes...Gastineau may have been an asshole, but he was our asshole.
My Bad.. Thought this was about the Offensive Line... They have a better chance at allowing more sacks than the defense can get..
If our D-line deserves the title the New Sack Exchange, then every D-line going against our O-line should be called Occupy Sanchez.
