This is really tough. I guess I'd say O'Brien slightly over Vinny. Vinny had one tremendous year, but not a big body of work with the team. Ken had a few good years before the beatings gave him the worst case of QB happy feet I've EVER seen. I guess since he had a bigger body of work as a member of the Jets, I'd say O'Brien. That's pretty sad actually.
It was really toss up between Sanchez and Vinny for me, but you got to respect Ken O'Brien for out throwing Marino
Exactly the same for me with Namath, Vinny and Sanchez. When Chad first came along and we went on that roll in 2002 I felt like anything was possible, too. He did it in a different way but he did it, the end of that year was incredible. It's your opinion and it's valid in that case, you can argue it all day. Marino and Montana are both Hall of Fame QBs, so I'm not sure you can go really wrong there. It's a team game so I get that playoff wins and Super Bowls aren't the only thing to go by, certainly. But you do have to factor playoffs in when it's a close discussion like with O'Brien, Chad or Sanchez.
It really is. Not exactly a who's who of first rate QB's to choose from. What makes it even worse, is thinking of all the crap in between (Brister, O'Donnell, Ryan, Nagle, Eason.......the list goes on and on).
We had an era of bringing guys in who had good careers elsewhere. We talked about Vinny, there was also O'Donnell fresh off a Super Bowl and Boomer who is a pretty decorated QB too, just not here. Bruce Smith decorated him pretty good once, that was about it.
I can't help but wonder how incredible a career Ken O' Brien would have had if he had a quality offensive line.
Because it's a poll about QB's, not inaccurate game managers playing alongside a #1 ranked defense. Wayne Fucking Hunter would have been an upgrade to Ken's O-Line.
he had good OLs for the most part, again- he held onto the ball too long looking for big plays. Yeah b/c any D can win in january w/ any QB you obviously didn't watch the O'brien era teams play or didn't understand what you were watching if you thought those Ols sucked.
Chad, but Mark is getting close. If Mark has a good season w/ some postseason wins he could overtake Pennington this season.
I've seen enough of your posts to know that your mind is twisted enough to think Superbowl/AFCCG games count for everything. If Sanchez is the second best quarterback to ever play for the franchise then god fucking help us. But what do you care? By your logic Tim Tebow should be included on the list and Trent Dilfer is the equal of Joe Namath.
Vinny was our primary starter for 3 seasons '98, '00 and '01. Chad due to injuies was only 4 but he led us to more playoff apps and more playoff wins. The # of games is closer b/c of the games Vinny played as a backup for us which include the starts in '03 and '05(22 starts). I'm not going to go nuts about "coming back" from 14-10 at the half against NE in '98 or down 17-10 in the 4th at KC. The MN miracle was a comeback, the TB game earlier that year was a comeback but most of those "comebacks" are a joke. More playoff apps, same # of div titles, more playoff wins, started for us longer. and Ken O'Brien couldn't while Sanchez has 2 div rd wins under his belt. Vinny had a better career, he just didn't have the impact on the game Joe had.
Individuals help teams win playoff games, O'Brien didn't play well in any of the 80s playoff games, played ok at Hou '91, cost us the '86 div rd after Pat Ryan got us there and gave us a lead. Who said they count for everything but is it better to get to 2 title games winning 4 playoff games than never winning a playoff game? Dilfer is a very underrated QB.
