Was it a conditional 4 with possible 2 for Barlow?

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  1. Rod_2

    Rod_2 Member

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    Was it a conditional 4 with possible 2 for Barlow?
    That how it was reported once out here.
     
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    A fixed fourth round pick was traded for Barlow.
     
  3. fenwyr

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    Rich Eisen announced this on NFL network, and he's a total Jets geek, so I'm guessing he had his facts straight.
     
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    whats a fixed fourth rd pick?
     
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    it's a 4th round pick...can't get better or worse
     
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    I'm not happy (at all) with up giving this 4th pick for Barlow, He'd better be as bad-ass on the field as he is in front of the microphone.
     
  7. steviep

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    I think a fourth round pick for a potential starting Rb makes total sense. As i posted before -- its rare that you are going to get a real good running back past the 2nd round anyway.

    Also, we accumulated some picks in order to make deals like this.
     
  8. Section 227. Row 5

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    I just have a sixth sense about this, that there's more here than we know. I think it's VERY possible Martin is completely done, as in finished forever. Otherwise I don't see Tangini giving up this 4th, I really don't.

    I mean, did Blaylock and Houston really look THAT bad in camp? Bad enough for us to run around handing out 4th picks? The answer is no. We could have gone with them, especially with what looks like an improvement in run-blocking along the line. And Washington, although admittedly a situational back, is too much of a rookie to tell where we're going with him. So my point is, I think Tangini knows Martin is done. It's the only reason they'd give up a 4th right now for a guy like Barlow.

    I hope I'm wrong about Barlow and I hope he gets on the field and knocks 'em dead. Then I'll eat crow and admit we got him cheap. But until I see that, I really hate giving up that 4th. We could have bundled it next year and really picked ourselves the next possible heir-apparent to #28. Just my opinion.
     
  9. #28Martin

    #28Martin Well-Known Member

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    You're not happy at all giving up a 4th rounder? What was SF gonna accept? A 20th rounder? Get freakin real, a 4th rounder for Barlow is more then fair. Stop overrating these freakin picks. They have an extra 2nd rounder next season. That's freakin enough. Some of you are such a freakin joke with overrating these draft picks. A 4th rounder isn't a high price for an established NFL RB. I love that one,, "i'm not happy at all giving un this 4th rounder," hahahahahah,, that's freakin great. I didn't know that it was comedy hour time, what a joke.
     
  10. Jet Blue

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    Besides, Mangini would have picked some Boy Scout Leader Division III TE out of Waskalana Tech in the fourth round anyway.
     
  11. Duk Dodgers

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    You do realize we picked up some pretty good guys with the 4th rounders in our last draft right? Maybe the jokes on you.....
    I was all for Suggs b/c you didn't sacrifice a pick. This however could easily turn into the worse move yet by FO (outside the Schlegal pick). I too hope he backs up all that talk, and if he doesn't like nolan, I'm sure he'll just LOVE Mangini :)


    But now that you mention it, I love how people try to justify this move by saying we have an extra 2nd. Yes that's great, but completely unrelated to barlow for a 4th. We could've had 10 or 2 draft picks, THIS player for THAT pick is still risky, and not exactly a neccesity for a team in its rebuilding mode. umm..freakin risky move i say!
     
  12. Section 227. Row 5

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    I don't know you and you don't know me. Why the personal attack? I was under the impression people are welcome to come here and post and discuss their opinions in a mature environment, free of mental midgets like yourself degrading the level of discussion.

    The only comedy hour in this thread is your inability to read and comprehend. I never questioned what SF should or shouldn't accept. I personally don't care what "they'd accept." My point is, behind our improved O-line, I don't think we've given Blaylock and Houston enough of a chance before spending next year's 4th round on another RB.

    But of course, you're not interested in anyone's opinion, or even in dialogue beyond your own adolescent world. You instead come here to impugn, demean and castigate others' opinions because it makes you feel better about your own inadequacies and low self-image. Ain't that right, bunkie?

    Now buzz off, son. And grow up and get yourself a life while you're at it. You don't have to always feel this way about yourself, you know? There's help out there. Be a real man, go out and find it and make something positive of yourself!
     
  13. Tony

    Tony Bipedal, Reformed

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    Bah. I still hate this trade. I think Barlow already made more noise by running his mouth then he'll ever make as a RB for this team. I suppose I could be wrong, and I certainly hope I am, but I just don't see this working out.
     
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    You know what you are right.. Giving up a 4th round pick for an established Rb is totally acceptable but you're are wrong in assuming that Barlow is an established NFL rb.. If you mean by established that he has been in the NFL for 4 years than yes he is established but to me established NFL rb means you have succeeded in this league.. Barlow has not done a thing in his career to warrant trading a 4th round pick for. Well unless you consider being an underachieving ass as doing something..
     
  15. Section 227. Row 5

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    The trade surprised me, quite frankly. We're #4 on the Waiver Wire, so for us to rush out immediately before seeing what's out there and give up next year's #4 pick for the likes of Barlow right now tells me something's terribly wrong with Curtis. It's just so "unTangini-like," for lack of a better phrase.

    And then to have this happen (the comments from Barlow), before he even takes the field, it's just too bizarre.
     
  16. Section 227. Row 5

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    I think you nail it dead on, Dodgers. The extra 2nd Rounder we have next year has nothing whatsoever to do with this trade. Each trade has to stand on it's own. A good way to squander picks is to start thinking you've got so many, so what the hell, what does it matter? It's almost like Tannenbaum was on vacation and Bradway stepped in and made the deal. It just seems so unlike Tangini, the "stingyness" they've exhibited since the new regime change. That's why I say, something's drastically up with Curtis and it just hasn't been announced yet.

    I disagree with your Schlegel concerns though. This guy has been pretty consistent in practice (except for that recent screw up... in the last preseason game... can't quite recall.. penalty maybe?). But anyway, I've got high hopes for this guy. Great gamer, great all-around athlete, good instincts and a nose for getting to the ball. Time will tell, I guess.
     
  17. #28Martin

    #28Martin Well-Known Member

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    Well then they can get some pretty good guys with their first rounder, two second rounders, third rounder, fifth rounder, sixth rounder and seventh rounder next year. As for them getting some pretty good guys in the fourth round this year, let's see these guys play when the games count until we call them pretty good. Cause as of now, none of the picks can be classifield as pretty good cause we haven't seen any of them in games that count yet.
     
  18. #28Martin

    #28Martin Well-Known Member

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    You sound ridiculous crying about giving up a fourth round pick for a starting calibar rb, when the team didn't have any. Period.
     
  19. #28Martin

    #28Martin Well-Known Member

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    Get the heck outta here. He rushed for 1,000 yards one season, that makes him established. I mean geez, what did you think you were getting A STAR RUNNING BACK FOR A FOURTH ROUNDER? GET REAL.
     
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    What team didn't have any? The Niners or the Jets? Hahahahahahaaa...!

    Oh, you are definitely the kind of guy who's easy to play with. A real genius, but let me give you some advice, if I may. For openers, learn to structure sentences that make sense, unlike the one above, in which you build in ambiguous meaning. It's laughable, if fact. You might want to learn to control your emotions while posting also. Doing so long enough to at least make an intelligent-sounding post (even though I know it's difficult for you) will enhance your abysmal credibility around here. You may want to take a few courses in anger management while you're at it, or maybe you can appear on the Dr. Phil Show at some point, for a little work on shedding yourself of your obvious adolescent mindset.

    But good luck in whatever you decide! We're with you all the way! Do keep us posted on your progress, won't you?
     

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