John Fox's Offense Last Year

Discussion in 'Tebowmania' started by Backup QB, Jul 16, 2012.

  1. CowboysFan

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    I like how you gloss over the fact that Tebow was 18/24 194 yards and a TD in the final 7 minutes against Chicago and yet you think he had nothing to do with the win .

    That thinking is what puts me on Tebow's side . Also How can anyone be so arrogant as to say Tebow will NEVER be a good QB , that is just foolish . I mean you won't say that about Blane Gabbert but you will about Tebow . Crazy. It's simply too early to tell.

    You are right about one thing, that Denver team sucked .
     
  2. metsnjets

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    I will say it about Gabbert.. that guy makes Tebow look world class. He has NO CHANCE in the NFL. Just like I said about Quinn. Guy was an f-tard at ND how was he going to be an NFL QB? Some guys have it.... others dont. I put Tebow in the "dont" catagory.
     
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    Yeah, based off leading a bad team to the playoffs in his first year starting, I'd say he is in the "don't" category as well.
     
  4. metsnjets

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    No. I based it of him being a horrible QB.
     
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    Opinions are like....what was it again?
     
  6. metsnjets

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    Onions? Fish? Tacos?

    no wait.

    Assholes.
     
  7. Backup QB

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    Well, he'll be your horrible starting QB eventually, so get used to him. It's about to get REAL for Sanchez. Hope he can take the pressure. I don't dislike him, but this is a genuine clusterf*ck that the Jets FO brought on the team. You cannot bring in Tebow and think that every sports network, magazine, newspaper, tabloid, internet blog, forum, etc... will not be discussing the real and true QB controversy in NY.

    Anyone who thinks it's going to be a "hey Sanchez is our starter" season is sticking their head in the sand. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just saying that it is already happening and it will get much worse very soon.
     
  8. CowboysFan

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    So this is all about a 46% completion percentage?

    it can not be about wins , as he was thrown into the fire at 1-4 and got a playoff win as a starter.
    it can not be about too many other stats as he has 32 TDs in 16 starts and is the #1 red zone thread in the NFL statiscally over the last two years.

    so what is it?

    his religion?
    his Popeye muscles?
    his 46% completion percentage?

    what really is your argument that he is terrible and will NEVER (according to you) be a good QB?
     
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    Can the season get here soon enough? Horrible QB? 6 come from behind wins in his first 16 starts?
    Sound pretty wild to me. Well, at least fun. One pundit said it was unprecedented for any young QB.
     
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    That is the all time NFL record in first 16 starts by the way but MetsNJets says he is horrible and will never make it........I am not saying Tebow is great, I am just saying metsnjests is an anti tebow cultist. Now that is a fact I can stand behind.
     
  11. Backup QB

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    I can't wait man. I'm going through football withdrawal. Fantasy football has ruined my life. lol.

    Personally, I am looking forward to the QB controversy in NY. It's going to be very entertaining. The Jets will be at the forefront of all media outlets. No QB controversy, my ass! I know that most Broncos fans hated it last year, but I loved it. Was great for the NFL and the Broncos. I just want to watch Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless going at it everyday again.
     
  12. Tebow>Sanchize

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    How can he put games away when retard fox/McCoy had him hand off on every 1st and 2nd down and then throw on third and long; no quarterback except Tim could have won with the krappp coaches and players they had last year. Orton 1-4, HorsefAce trades their best wide-out and Tim brings em to the playoffs and beats the Steelers. Its gonna be nice watching the Steelers knock The FOREHEAD ON HIS ASS!
     
  13. The Swamp

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    MetsnJets joined just to hate on Tebow. It's so obvious it isn't even funny. I don't think it was Fox's offense though, it was McCoy's. But I must say his playcalling was horrendous. If you think he has trouble with short to intermediate passes. Call them during the game. That's the best experience.
     
  14. metsnjets

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    Wins - 9-7 two games over .500
    QB rating - 72.9 (27 out of 32 QB's)
    Yards Per game passing - 157 PG (31'st only ahead of Blaine Gabbert)
    Total TD's Passing - 27th
    TD's per game Passing - 1.09 Among the lowest in the league with such super stars as Alex Smith.
    Completion % - DEAD LAST 4.3% lower than BLAINE GABBERT a rookie on a bad team.
    3 and outs - lead league IN 11 GAMES.
    1 win over +.500 team.
    lost 4 out of the last 5 games he played.
    INT / Fumbles increased over the last 5 games.

    Thats why.

    Pretty tired of saying this, I dont hate tebow. I dont much care for his uber fans. But I will say what I think and I think he has shown that he has a ceiling of "game manager" At best he is Alex Smith, who took 7 years to be half-way decent. At worst he will be out of the league in a couple of years.
     
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    Alex Smith, who had 7 OCs in 7 years? Alex Smith, who got within a couple plays of reaching the SB once he had a coach who supported him?

    It's Sanchez right now who needs to prove he's better than game manager.
     
  16. metsnjets

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    Yeah the same smith that threw a TD pass per game, the same smith that managed NOT TO LOSE games instead of winning them. The same smith that will never be better than a game manager.

    The 49ers wont win a super bowl with Smith at the helm unless they somehow channel the Ravens Defense from 2001.

    In the last 10 super bowl only the Bucs have won it without an all-pro QB. So what does that tell you?

    YOU NEED more than a game manager to WIN the SB.
     
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    Yep, you do. And right now, the Jets haven't proven they have more than a game manager.

    We'll see what kind of year Smith has. My bet is Tebow's ceiling is a bit higher.
     
  18. metsnjets

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    I agree. Sanchez is not losing games at this point. However, Tebow's ceiling isnt even as high as Sanchez' in my book. Tebow can be cog in the wheel in a winning team but he won't lead anyone as the starting QB to a SB and win it. For the record I dont see Sanchez doing it either.

    Sanchez has the ability but makes too many mental mistakes.
     
  19. catsigater

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    Like I've repeatedly said, Tebow's doubters have an argument. I think they're wrong, but his body of work is certainly open to criticism.
     
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    Sup CowboysFan, are you Skip Bayless.
     

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