Is it just me or do u think we're gonna throw the ball more then they're letting on?

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  1. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    The thing of it is, (and this is just my opinion)...Ground and Pound is misinterpreted.

    Get ahead first...then take the air out of the ball, like Parcells.

    And today's rules favor throwing it.

    Get up, then be ABLE to ground and pound it.
     
  2. 4jetfans

    4jetfans Well-Known Member

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    Hey Martin5, thanks for the great read and the bar charts really summed up a lot of things concerning Schott's time here. Also liked the comments on the bottom of the artical seems like the readers also knew the deal from last year. I have said this all along... YOUR Offensive is the teams Bread/Butter. If you want a few yards a carry, or a screen or the deep pass you have to have the horses up front to get it done. Go Jets
     

  3. Where we disagree is on Moore. The guy is above average as both a run blocker & pass blocker. Was he banged up last year? Yes he was. Is he getting up there in years? Yes. But O-linemen can play longer than other positions, and Moore has been a dependable starter for so long..I just can't justify betting against him bouncing back this year.

    If Ducasse beats out Slauson(a big if) this unit will improve by leaps & bounds in the running game. Say what you will about Ducasse in pass/pro & pre snap but the dude is a big time drive blocker in the running game. YPC will not be an issue on the left side if he is paired w/ Brick.

    Additionally,don't forget about Otah. If he passes his physical and can stay healthy he's an above average pass protector & a big time drive blocker.

    There are alot of different factors/moving parts hanging in the balance for this group. Odds are they end up somewhere around 12-15 in both YPC and pass pro statistics..however..the upside is much higher than that when you factor in Moore/Brick/Mangold's resume as well as the Otah/Ducasse factor.
     
  4. dcm1602

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    From rotoworld

    And Ducasse would be an improvement in the run game over Slauson, but doubtfully one in the pass game.

    I also think Moores pass blocking is overrated since he had Hunter next to him. So even if he was getting beat, Hunter was getting beat a helluva lot quicker

    Otah is a long shot. Its 50 50 he even makes the roster, and an even longer shot that he can manage to stay healthy much of the season.

    I promise you our OL isnt a strength
     

  5. I don't go based on PFF stats or media outlet opinions. Certainly, you are entitled to use them, but I go based solely on what I see on the field. I watch the line more than any other facet on the team.

    My opinion is that Moore is not dominant in any one category but is above average in all categories. He's a solid dependable veteran.

    I also am fairly confident in my assessment this OL will be leaps & bounds better than it was last season.

    Essentially we can agree to disagree.
     
  6. Big Blocker

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    I tend to be quite skeptical of analyses that attempt to judge the OL mostly with a metric like sacks allowed. Sacks allowed is obviously not purely a function of OL play, and there are very persuasive analyses out there that Sanchez is awful at dealing with pressure. One outcome of pressure can be sacks.

    But you don't even have to go that far. Just compare the Qb hits stat with the sacks allowed stat. I think Qb hits is a much better metric than sacks allowed if the object is to assess the OL. On that stat, the Jets OL was 23rd in the league last year, with first being worst. In short it was top third of the league in pass protection.
     
  7. NYJMONKEY

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    I think we will throw alot but i think we will run alot at the end it will prolly look somthing like the dolphins run/pass ratio lol i mean its just a guess
     
  8. NYJMONKEY

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    I want to know how Q.Coples is doing in camp. ZERO news about our number 1 pick wtf
     
  9. tanknyc

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    I hope we do throw more because otherwise we will be running Schotty plays... 3 and 10 and running Draws
     

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