Is it just me or do u think we're gonna throw the ball more then they're letting on?

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  1. #1 Jets Fan

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    I really believe we are going to throw the ball a lot more then they are letting on. I don't think we draft a WR in 2nd rd to run the ball. Plus I think if we was really going to ground and pound like we did in past we sign another RB. Now I don't think we will throw the ball 40 times a game. I'm thinking between 27-30 times a game.
     
  2. Bellows1

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    Yes I do, I think we'll throw more than run. I don't hate Greene, but I'm not sure he can carry the team in a G&P offense.

    Of course it all hinges on how Mark performs this season.
     
  3. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    We drafted the perfect receiver for a true ground and pound offense. In a true ground and pound offense you HAVE to attack vertical when you do pass. That's what keeps the defense honest. Hill can block very well and take the top off a defense. Schillens fills the same role. We are absolutely going to try and run a hell of a lot this year.

    We are going to see a lot more deep passing this season and it will open things up for both ground and pound and Holmes/Keller doing there thing underneath.
     
  4. DarrelleRevis.Human?

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    Well with as good as it worked for us last year why not. Besides we have so many seasoned vets at WR lol.
     
  5. 101GangGreen101

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    If Hill can grab about 35 catches and get like 5 TDs, it'll be a successful season for both Hill and the Jets
     
  6. GMCJETS

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    WRs that run proper routes create space for the running game. Last season all you saw was Plax and Holmes turned around standing up 10 yards off the ball watching neither one ran complete routes.

    As far as the ground and pound goes. I think we may need to sign Cedrick Benson as SG wont last the season carrying all the load himself.
     
  7. #1 Jets Fan

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    I agree but we don't have any blocking TE and that more important then a blocking WR.
     
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    I still think they have a TE on the radar.
     
  9. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    We picked up Tarren Lloyd and apparently Cumberland has added some weight and umph to his blocking.

    I agree that is a critical piece for the offense we want to run. Lloyd is probably a guy to keep an eye on.

    My response was directed at the " I don't think we draft a WR in 2nd rd to run the ball" comment ...
     
  10. Br4d

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    The Jets don't really have the tools to excel in either a pass heavy or run heavy offense at this point.

    They've got question marks at several spots in the offensive line. They've got one receiver who is proven but who also gets shut down fairly easily. They've got a receiving tight end who also gets shut down when the opposition decides to do that. They've got one back who can handle 250 carries but not much more than that and who is not a good outlet receiver. They've got a quarterback who needs real support elsewhere to flourish.

    I just don't see the tools being there for the Jets to dictate to the defense. So I think what will likely happen is the Jets will be fairly balanced in the play calling and they'll take some shots down the field while keeping the running game going as well as they can.

    I don't expect the Jets offense to be top half of the league at this point. We might get lucky and have Hill breakout in his rookie year. We might have another back emerge beside Greene to give the Jets the horses to really run the ball. We might even see Kerley turn into a very good slot receiver which would open things up a lot for the offense.

    On the other hand all of those things could be in the offing and yet the offensive line can't hold up it's end.

    You get the results that you get based on how well you have planned and built before you try to execute. The Jets planning and building is subpar on the offense at this point. That suggests subpar results as well.
     
  11. ajax

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    This season is a new O-scheme and I'd expect them to start out conservatively and open it up slowly. Just wanna minimize the turnovers and not give up a ton of points like last season's Offense.

    Although I'm expecting more rushing attempts, I'm also expecting the passes to be on longer routes. Hill will hopefully be able to stretch the field and even if he isn't making passes, it'll be enough if he keeps opposing defenses honest. Gives Holmes more room to work & less opposing defenders in the box.
     
  12. BacktoQueens

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    Haven't looked at the stats in awhile, but i believe running 40% of snaps in today's NFL would be near the top of the league.
    40% is essentially ground and pound, as so many teams abandon the run so quickly.
    The Jets will make a concerted effort to stay with it, but on the all, it will actually be a balanced attack (which they'll need).

    Edit: Just read Jets ran 60% of the time in 2009, so my stats were off. Either way, i still think 50/50 is likely.
     
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    I dont think so at all

    Last year Alex Smith threw the ball only 27 times a game
    Sanchez 34

    I expect Sanchez to be somewhere in-between this year avging between 29-31 attempts a game.
     
  14. deerow84

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    I think it's definitely possible. I don't think they will throw a lot but more than they are letting on. Although they will probably start with a more run based offense and then move to throwing the ball a bit more as the season progresses.
     
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    Here is a good article from Jason at nyjetscap.com on what we can expect from the Jets offense

    http://nyjetscap.com/2012_Articles/sparanooffense.php

    What really excites me based on the TC reports is that there may be a lot more hurry up offense. This is something that all fans wanted to see more of, but it seemed like Schotty never wanted to do it.
     
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    That we know of! Thats what camp is for, to find guys that can. Maybe Cumberland or hey guys what do you think of Hayden Smith making the team strictly as a blocking TE??
     
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    We saw that Cumberland couldnt block last year. And to assume that a guy like Smith who has never played football is going to be able to block the best players in the world (NFL players) is absolutely ridiculous.

    Smith might be able to be somewhere between poor and mediocre, but no way hes good.

    This team doesnt have a good blocking TE on the roster period. That is a concern
     
  18. ILL-AL

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    If they are serious about G&P I can see us signing a Vet RB before season starts
     
  19. Noam

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    Cimini reported that the Jets ran the ball 22 straight times in practice today. This is the type of offense I love to see.

    Yes, I do not expect us to throw the ball much. We have tried to open the offense before and Sanchez cannot handle it. He cannot throw from the pocket when the defense is expecting him to throw. He is simply a game manager play action QB. He lacks the poise, ball security evasiveness, footwork, decision making, understanding of defenses, field vision and accuracy to throw from the pocket with any reliability.

    Like LongtimeJetFan pointed out above Hill and to a lesser extent Schillens are the perfect WRs for the ground and pound offense as theymay gives us a deep threat that will hopefully keep defenses from stacking the box and daring us to throw like they did last year. Hopefully Sanchez will not overthrow him by 10+ yards like he did on almost every deep throw last year. Surprisingly we might see Tebow make better use of Hill's speed than Sanchez. Despite his lack of accuracy and poor pocket skills Tebow did quite well last year on deep throws. A few deep throws while using the wildcat would certainly make defenses think about using some caution.
     
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  20. GMCJETS

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    Agreed id like to see that player if not on another team in camp learning the offense. Cedric Benson comes to mind.
     

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