Vegas odds of winning AFC Championship

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  1. 101GangGreen101

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    We won't replace Plax on the RZ, however we got some big bodies that can make playability the RZ Jeff Cumberland comes to mind here.

    The OC is taking advantages of the personells strengths. Holmes will bounce back and Kerley will build on last year.

    I can see us replacing Plax's production for sure. I do question if we can replicate our RZ offense. We were #1 in the league last year in RZ effiency. That's tough to repeat but we do have the players.

    With Hill and Schiens more big plays will be generated. Our biggest play last year was Holmes TD against the Dolphins earlier in the season and that was maybe 40 yards.

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    It has become the conventional wisdom that LT was a non-factor in the O last year. True his rushing yards dropped off substantially, although he still gained more per carry than McKight. But don't forget he also gained 449 yards receiving, for 10.7 per catch.

    Who is going to replace those receiving yards in this backfield?
     
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    Love your attitude.

    As far as RT, switching from a game plan that throws the ball 60 times (Giants game) to a game plan the runs the ball 60 times (2012 Jets) will eliminate sacks, knock-downs, interceptions, and pressure by 50%+ even if our O-line plays exactly the same as last year.
     
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    This is inaccurate. Bell had been on the decline for years. Sure, money was a factor. But the new DC, Kevin Coyle, prefers to run a D with 2 free safety types on the field instead of a SS and a FS. Bell cannot perform the duties of a FS so combine that with his big salary he was an easy decision.
     
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    Joe McKnight hopefully replaces LT as our 3rd down back. He won't replace LT and what he brings to the table but I think it's safe to say he can make plays catching the football

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    I personalley expect between 1400 and 1600 yads between the few of them, as well as opening things up for Holmes.

    However you also have to keep in mind, that with a new OC its very possible we throw far less passes, which would reduce their opprotunities to make plays.
     
  7. CJLang

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    If you look at it this way, every team has the eaxact same amount of depth because they all carry 53 players.

    Maybe quality depth should be the term we're using.

    The Jets MAY have a lot of quality depth, but there is no way to know until the season starts because most of their "depth" is unproven.

    To definitively say that the Jets have satisfactorily addressed almost all of their issues is optimistic at the very least.
     
  8. Milliner is your Mommy

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    We underachieved last year imo and we also got a little better this year imo. So I think we win 10 games 11 games max. Wildcard team behind NE's 13.
     
  9. dmw

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    You can argue all day about whether the Jets are better than last year or not and it doesn't make any difference. The fact is that the front office did a good job in that they picked up a lot of players through free agency, the draft and Australian rules football? who may or may not work out. At least they got players who have a realistic potential of being very good and didn't take any short cuts this year.
     
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    By the way, my friend was in Vegas and put the bet on the Jets to win the AFC and he got 6-1 odds. He let me in on 1/2 the bet.
     
  11. Milliner is your Mommy

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    Maybe he just told you that so if the Jets do win then he gets to keep more money :)
     
  12. Not making any predictions...not making any arguments. No matter what we say opposing fans are gonna jump on it as being bias...so let them say what they want.

    In Rex we trust.

    And Ya know what? The way the entire media, opposing fan bases, & opposing teams have attacked the Jets over the past year...winning with class has gone out the window. Bring on the entire opposing 31 teams.We have Rex's D...we have Revis..you don't.
     
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    Wait - WTF? Last year you clown trolls were talking about how LT was washed up and a non-factor in our offense and on the decline blah blah blah and now your double standards want to know how we are going to replace him? You guys really need to get your stories strait.

    Greene, McKnight, Ganaway, and even Tebow can easily pick up the slack. Greene is nowhere near the fumble machine he was his first year or two. And McKhight can catch the ball as well as he's proven it. You're telling me that you would put McKnigh - a sophomore - out on the field before LT? Um...no.
     
  14. Relax. Don't waste your breath.

    They wouldn't be here if the Jets were as inept as they paint them to be. But no matter what we say, they're gonna spin it that the Jets somehow got worse, that every addition was a downgrade, & everyone who left(regardless of the reason) is a missing piece.

    Let them take their swings. The way last season ended will be good for this team moving forward. The overlooking of young players still on the upswing within this organization will look awfully foolish come September. I'm fairly confident in that assessment
     
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    IMO... at best 12-4 at worst 7-9
     
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    LT couldnt run the ball anymore

    But he was a decent receiving option. However I think there's a good chance McKnight could match or exceed him catching the ball

    But there's no question that nobody on the roster will be as good of a blocking halfback as LT. That part you just can't argue
     
  18. blEEdgrEEnaLLyEEr

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    Some might look at this and think I don't know what I'm talking about since it's me second post, but I've followed the Jets for 7 years now and this forum for about a year. Finally joined cause I'm sick of reading all the neg. bs that fish fans, kattle fans and pansies are saying.

    Did the Jets get better and improve in positions they needed to. Absolutely. So did every other team in the NFL. That's what the draft and FA is for. Just so happens that the Jets managed to do it without giving up close
    To nothing and by not overpaying individual players, hoping that they'll single handedly will make their team a SB contender. So go ahead an talk all the crap you wanna talk about how the moves the Jets made won't make them a better team, and how the rookies are unproven, blah blah blah. No shit they're unproven. Not one player that was drafted has proven jack. But what the Jets rookies have done is, they showed potential and promise in OTA's. And that in itself is enough to say that we have improved in positions of need since last year.
     
  19. Coach K

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    I think Demario Davis will be an x-factor at LBer. and I expect our defense (most notably youth at DL) to revert to 09 form turning heads again.

    the big ? is the offense and if they can get their shit together.

    if they do I think us being a wildcard is almost a lock. now how they respond in the playoffs is completely different.

    like i said the offense is a big if, but theres no reason jets fans shouldnt expect a wild card berth if the offense is potent enough to not keep the defense on the field all the time
     
  20. blEEdgrEEnaLLyEEr

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    I don't like all this Wild Card talk. What gives the Patriots or anyone else for that matter the automatic title of division champion. Yeah they went to the SB. They lost. They've won the division. Yeah. With the fins and bills Beeing one of the worst teams in the league, and with us having so many issues with the OL and locker drama, that this on its own could have been a soap opera.

    So no. The patriots don't get the automatic afc east title in my opinion. If the moves we made Pam out, there is no reason to award them the afc east title without them coming out and earning it. When we play them tough, we beat them, on more then one occasion. When they beat us, it's an ass rape.

    The afc is strong. Always has been, but the east is any bodies at the moment. And by anybody I mean between the Jets and Pats. And honestly, teams have figured out how to beat the Pats. Take the Giants for example. With that said. We take the AFC East, and go in as WC at worst case scenario.
     

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