And my point is that until we actually see Maybin covering a top tight end this entire thing is total speculation. You are suggesting Maybin can do this based on his size and his pass rushing speed alone. Speed in pass rushing does not mean he has the ability to drop in to coverage and be able to keep up with tight ends who are running 4.4-4.6 40 times like Vernon Davis and Rob Gronkowski. Also if you are going to over/under the coverage that kind of defeats the purpose of what you were saying earlier. That doesn't exactly give an advantage, that is what teams are trying to do already. You were making it seem like you think Maybin is capable of covering tight ends one on one as if he was going to win those matchups.
Maybin ran 4.59. The point is not Maybin being a 6'4" Revis. The point is making the offense use a weapon to account for a pass rush, and in another instance provide a wall to force a throw over. Which is where most over under fails, with a bigger guy underneath in bracket coverage you need to drop a ball in, which in turn lays the pass catcher out for the over coverage(read big hit) I keep reiterating you are not asking him to to anything overly complex Rush the passer, Clog the passing lane(while bringing pressure from another angle) It seems to me you are reading this into a 3 down assignment
And you are making it seem overly easy. There are plenty of OLBs in this league with a skillset and size equal to or better than Aaron Maybin yet many of those teams are still getting gutted by TEs. Point being, I think if what you are suggesting would work it would have been done already.
I still dont see how proclaiming a motto is going to come true just because its a motto. Who did the Jets add/replace on their defense to get faster? Coples is there, but he is a lineman who will not be running anywhere down field. Davis, IMO, isnt taking Scott's position this year, so the base defense is still the same. You still have the same slow, old OLBs, and you actually added older and slower safeties. IMO, the Jets got slower. Um... you mentioned a bunch of scrubs and backups. Either one or both of Spencer Johnson and Dwan Edwards will be cut... and they are backups anyway? Same for Chris Kelsay. Same for Bryan Scott. Wilson and Barnett are the only two starters on that list, but nice try.
So Bills and Pats fans' perspectives aren't reality, but a homer of their own team is. Right. And for the record, I expect Mario to have somewhere between 6-10 sacks.
I agree with the subpackage argument. If Davis, Maybin and some of the rookie safeties see a lot of time, the Jets will be more athletic. I'm just not convinced those players (other than Maybin) will see the filed all that much. Davis should be in sometimes on nickel, I guess.
It's nice to see an article of this nature rather than about Cromartie's wife, or Sanchez's sexual escapades or the second coming of christ in Tebow. Real football news, great read too.
Not what I said. Just being that don't listen to what sunshine Jets fans say but also there is no point in trying to listen to fans of our rivals trying to be objective when clearly they arent being. I love objective analysis as much as the next guy but some people just let their personal feelings get in the way of the truth.
Isn't it possible that a Jet fan's perspective on what objective is also aligns with their own opinion?
How about Coples? what numbers do you think he will get starting day 1?? I expect to see TONS of opportunities with Creating havoc with Pouha/Ellis on the inside with Maybin or Pace on the other edge depending on game situation(time)
I think you are probably right re 2-3 sacks. But I also think, if the Jets carry 6 LBs on the roster, namely Pace, Thomas, Harris, Scott, Maybin and Davis, then Davis may have a role in a few different packages, and he may be used as a speed rusher off the outisde. Just like Maybin was "game planned" in for 6 sacks, I could imagine a situation where Davis is also "game planned" in and gets a few more sacks.
Okay, so a team dedicating its offseason to getting faster on defense, will not in fact get faster simply because their goals mean nothing? Im confused as to whats confusing or not to get here... If the coaching staff’s goal is to get faster, Im pretty sure they will, even if its just a few players increasing their speed noticeably. Laron Landry and Bell are a faster tandem at safety than Leohnard and Smith... And having Maybin be a potential 3 down player (which I believe the coaching staff wants him to be) will increase speed/youth at the OLB position. And having two athletic DEs does help with team speed, Im not sure why it wouldnt. Davis may not start, I dont expect him to, but he will help speed in subpackages, and like I said before, reports have said that Scott has lost weight and has gotten faster (but its okay, just ignore that once again). Im not gonna lie, I do not know a whole lot about the Bills defense/contributors, but from stats, Johnson is 8th in tackles, Edwards was 6th , Kelsay was 11th (2nd in sacks) and Scott was 5th. To add onto that, Barnett was 1st and Wilson 2nd. So 6 out of the top 11 tacklers were over 30, which is pretty significant. They may be cut or whatever, but still that production has to be replaced and then the story is turnover at the position. Point is, you can criticize on what you think is a slower Jets defense, but every defense ages, just like the Bills, and the Jets have added an infusion of youth to where there speed should not decrease, but significantly increase.
Don't forget that safeties are often integral in pass rushing. Most people don't realize that signing these safeties actually improves our pass rush substantially, even if you don't even consider all the youth on the D line this year. With lockdown corners, and safeties that can get to the QB and stop the run, while also keeping receivers on their toes because they hit HARD. I'd say we're in very good position. The reason why our safeties were so exploited last year, wasn't just because they had trouble in coverage, its also because we couldn't get to the QB quick enough. Give a decent QB enough time to throw and he'll find that guy that escaped from the safety. Coverage isn't the prime responsibility of the safeties either, so I don't really see a reason to be down on the safeties. Our defense this year is going to be better than last year, unless we have injuries or all the rookies are busts, which is doubtful. I'll make that bold prediction and say we are 1st or 2nd best D in the NFL next year.
We both agree. (It's pretty clear their vision for him, up till now, has been going forward, and only going forward...) I'd just like to see him get a shot at it in the preseason...
Cimini posted this: Player Comp Pct/Rank Yards/Rank Passer rating/Rank Bell 65.0 (t56th) 333 (64th) 105.5 (63rd) Landry 71.4 (t74th) 159 (20th) 109.0 (68th) Smith 66.7 (t59th) 533 (86th) 97.2 (54th) Player Targets/completions Bell 40/26 Landry 21/15 (Played in only 8 games) Smith 54/36 http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/je...ass?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Sorry for the shitty formatting. I cannot get it to line up right.
Yes but when articles from the media suggest that the team is getting faster and the team has signed and drafted a couple of players for depth at their position of greatest need, you coming in and saying all they did was get old is not going to hold a lot of strength around here.
This is an interesting article and helps make the offseason a bit more tolerable. Having said all that, I'm pretty sure there are several teams already employing this scheme. The Giants have been doing this under Perry Fewell for the last 2 seasons (look at Deion Grant's stats as the third safety on the team for evidence). I also think that the Cowboys Eagles did this quite a bit last season to make up for their lack of talent at the LB position. I'm not sure it makes the most sense for the Jets to make use of this scheme. I know it's a logical counter to the Patriots' offense, but I don't see the Jets as having the safety talent to pull this off consistently. I think it makes more sense to edge blitz when the TEs are in tight and make sure your blitzers hit TEs at the LOS. Besides that, the only surefire way to beat the Pats spread-style offense is to consistently get pressure with 4. You NEED to clog the passing lanes and get to Brady; short of getting pressure with 4 there is no way to do both.
