I thought it might be cool to get the Jets perspective on the AFC east drafts. I made the same thread in a fins forum so I thought I would do it here. Jets Draft- I think this is the toughest one to grade or rank in the entire division. The Jets really went with a boom or bust draft. I think Couples can be a great player, or a major bust. My guess is right in between. Probably closer to great than bust. Rex should be able to get the most out of him, but you can't teach work ethic. I think Hill is even riskier. I kinda wanted my dolphins to draft him so I can't rip the pick that much, but he is very raw and didn't put up alot of numbers in college. I understand it being a crazy option offense, but if he is as good as he should be, you would think they would have used him more. I also dont like players shooting up draft boards based off of combine performances. He has a chance to be special, but it might take a couple years for him to develop. Again, boom or bust type of player. I really like the pick of Demario Davis. I think he's going to be an above average player for a long time. Maybe even pro bowl quality. I also like the safety in the later rounds. I think Antonio Allen. I thought he would go around rounds 3-5. I dont know much about the other players, but I would give this draft a B, with the chance of it being an A+ or an F. Again, I see both Couples and Hill being boom or bust guys. I do like Hill's enthusiasm though. He seems like he will be a hard worker and really wants to be great. There isn't alot I can say about the Patriots draft. I think it is a B- or C+. I don't think anybody they took will be great. I think Chandler Jones and Hightower will be solid. Other than that, I don't think they will get much out of anybody else. But I will admit, I don't know much about the other guys they took. The bills draft seemed pretty solid. Nothing spectacular but not bad. I do have questions about the Gilmore. I think he's a little overrated and isn't going to be a pro bowl type, but a solid player. Cordy Glenn was a good get in the 2nd round. I could see him busting, but based on his play in college he could be a pro bowler in a few years, and should at least have a solid career. Good value in the 2nd. I think Tj Graham in the 3rd was a major reach, but what do I know. I guess they needed another reciever, I just thought there were alot better still on the board. I like Ron Brooks, the CB from LSU in the 4th. I think he will end up being a solid contributor, and I think thats what you hope for in the 4th round. Overall, I would probably give their draft a B-. As a dolphins fan, I might be a little biased, but I loved their draft. Tannehill is a question mark, but I'm glad we finally took a chance on a quarterback. I think getting Jonathan Martin in the 2nd round was a great pick. He was talked about as a first rounder by most, and it was a huge area of need. He should be a huge upgrade at right tackle. I also really like the tight end we got in the 3rd, Michael Egnew. He reminds me of a Jermichal Finley type. Kiper and others have kinda ripped him a little bit because he can't block, but as far as a seem threat he might be the best in the draft. 6' 5" and ran in the 4.5 range. Great hands and runs good routes. His production was down a bit this year after losing Blaine Gabbert, but the year before he has around 90 catches and 8 touchdowns. I think he will be a very good player in a year or 2. Also, getting Lamar Miller in the 4th round was excellent. It wasn't a huge area of need, but he can be a game breaker. He was talked about as late first or 2nd round pick. He's 5'11" 212 pounds and ran a 4.3 with a still healing shoulder at the combine. Some compare him to Chris Johnson, but he's a bit stockier. I think he has potential to be a great RB in this league. The rest of our draft was just gravy after the 4th round. Overall I would give this draft a A- because we didn't address WR until the 6th round. But depending on what Tannehill does, it will either be an A+ or a F. I personally think with our coaching and his skill set, he will be no worse than an average starter. I really think he has potential to be great tho, only time will tell. So in my biased opinion I would great the AFC east drafts as such, Dolphins A- Jets B hardest draft to grade based on boom or bust potential Bills B- not bad, not great. Patriots C again, not bad, but nothing spectacular. Pretty average IMO. P.S. Being a dolphins fan, I may be a bit biased, but I have no problem admitting when we have a bad draft, which I have in the past. I really believe this was a great draft for them
You should really reread what you wrote before you hit the submit button. This has to be one of the more unintentionally funny posts I've read in awhile.
Is it just that people don't pay attention when their spellcheck changes a word or do 99% of the people here actually think his name is Couples? It's driving me nuts.
Draft grades from SI.com: Bills B+ Pats B- Mia B- Jets D- http://nfl.si.com/2012/04/29/2012-nfl-draft-grades/?sct=hp_t11_a4&eref=sihp
Peter King and SI take the Pats dick up the ass with talcum powder as lubricant so we are grading the draft ourselves instead of using SI.
I'll admit i did think it was spelled Couples. I think thats a pretty minor error to get critisized for, but if it really upset you, I'll make sure I get it right from now on. Just trying to get some conversation going. And don't criticize critisize. I don't feel like spell checking it so I'm not going to. It doesn't look right to me, but I dont care.
We already know this and it will take 2 ~ 4 years before you can get a good idea of how the draft graded out. However, we are doing the same thing all the talking heads are doing - taking a shot in the dark. Kiper, King, Mayock, and every one else who had a draft board are no fucking smarter than we are. They just have a public soap box to do it on...
As a Jets fan, I hope to got the Pats, Fish, and Bills end up with F grades. I was thinking Fins got themselves a B+. Not high on Tannehill. I would have been more impressed if they sold the farm and went for RGIII. No WR until 7th. Everything else was a good pick, fill a need. Pats was OK with the exception of Jones & Wilson. Belli's picking in round 2 is historically bad (PFTx - you can reference ESPN, SI, etc for the article). Wilson might be a reach. B- Bills was solid as well. B+ Jets B+. Coples will do well - I'm confident they got the best pass rusher in the draft. Hill is meh at best - as OP said - boom or bust. The Davis pick was a steal and everything else filled a need/depth with no one I think being spectacular except possibly Ganaway.
Yep, at least 2 years. These are only opinions. Opinions create controversies. Controversies create debate. Debate creates volume. Volume creates money.
Well, the draft really ISN'T just a shot in the dark. If you took all 600 draft prospects and blindly tossed 7 darts, well that be a shot in the dark. But the draft is a real industry complete with draft nics and experts. A lot of ppl spend A LOT of time pouring over every scrap of ever thing on these kids trying to pick out the diamond in the rough. Some GM's actually look at team needs, other just take the 7 best players and tell the coach to make it work. There's a reason GM's take BPA...so some day down the road he can say "I drafted 20 Pro Bowlers....I'm awesome". No matter if the coach could actually used the kid.
I completely agree that a draft can't be graded for at least 2 years. This is all in fun, like somebody said, just to take a shot in the dark and create conversation.
lol, I see what you guys are saying. My point was he has the classic boom or bust qualities, but I think he will end up being an above average player. Maybe make a couple pro bowls. It depends on how they will utilize him.
A "bit" biased? How can you argue the Phins had a better draft than the Jets? Taking Tannehill is just as much a negative as it is a plus (reach pick for a need that should've been filled via FA).
The only Jets pick SI names other than Hill and Coples is... Jordan White. And they claim the Jets' biggest/(infers that the Jets only) need is RT. EDIT: Screw SI for downplaying Miami's most obvious need (WR). EDIT 2: Hill will "help with that underwhelming unit"? So, you mean, he'll FILL A NEED? This draft analysis by SI is shit.
AMEN to this. No matter what any fan/analyst says about the draft they're full of shit because it's impossible to "predict".
All spell-checking aside, makes such little sense that saying it makes "zero sense" is an understatement.
