Do we have the personnel to run the Power O?

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  1. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    With the additions of Tebow and Sparano it is likely that our offense will largely feature the Power O. Do we have the personnel to run the power O? Neither of our two starting Guards are guys who can get out and pull. We do not have a TE who can set the edge as I'm not totally sure what we have behind Keller right now. And I like Connor as our FB, but he needs to be a better lead blocker. And behind Connor do we have any RB's who can read blocks correctly? I do not think Greene is very good at reading his blockers. If you give Greene a hole he can hit the hole and make something happen, but I think he does not follow his blockers correctly and often makes bad decisions when it comes to reading his blocks. Joe McKnight has great speed and can hit the edges well, but he needs to become much more patient when following his blockers.

    So I guess the question is do we have the appropriate personnel to run the Power O?
     
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    rex said on that interview...... " f*ck yeah...we do"
     
  3. Here's how I see the prospect of the power I

    1. O-line: If we're talking straight ahead power football, I think this o-line can handle it. If it requires alot of pulling/trapping as you alluded to..that's a problem

    2. RB: I wouldn't judge Greene as we don't know how he will look in a man blocking scheme. Greene was taught via the ZBS to trust your blocking, find a crease cut and go. A man blocking scheme in the Power I is a completely different story. He certainly has the burst,pad level, & shear power to be successul

    3.TE: This is not a TE corps that's gonna set the edge & knock people off the line. You can prolly utilize them in some trap/pull situations where "getting to a spot" is more important than the actual collision/engagement. Than again./.this could be offset by using a 6th linemen, like the Jets have done since the Rex Regime took shape
     
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  4. Jake

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    Just curious as to what you would call our offenses in 09 and 10 if not "power O"? It was definitely the run game that held everything together in those seasons. Losing D Woody, T Rich, Braylon and Hartsock affected us last year but most of those players are still here. I think recommitting to the run game will be great for this team. Slauson was solid in 2010, and injured all of last year. I think he'll be fine.
     
  5. Murrell2878

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    That was a Zone blocking run scheme. We are moving to the man blocking scheme. The Power O is a type of run play that we will use more this year w/ Tebow and because that is the type of running system that Sparano will want to run.
     
  6. SKIBA-JONES

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    Greene needs to stop dancing around in the backfield, and run north n south. He needs to be a punishing back and lower his shoulders and run in between the tackles, wihch he doesnt do, hes a soft runner. Can he be a ground and pound runner? Shit yea! If he can get his head right and realize hes not quick enough to be dancing in the backfrield and trying to kick it outside. I do think Greene and Mcknight could be a great 1,2 punch.
     
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    Oh you were talking about a specific play. Understood.
     
  8. Milliner is your Mommy

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    Yes Greene hesitates too much and second guesses his first decision. So instead of maybe falling forward for 4 or 5 yards with a full head of steam he hops to the side and goes for 2 yards. He needs to trust his blockers lower his head and try to bust through.
     
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    Wayne Hunter and Bilal Powell. Take it to the bank.
     
  10. Murrell2878

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    It's not a specific play necessarily. It's a rushing scheme / style.
     
  11. Don

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    We had Woody and we had a RB..first Jones and then LT. We have neither now.
     
  12. laxin

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    I think our OL could potentially handle it as long as it doesn't rely on a lot of pulling. Hopefully Ducasse can get his mind wrapped around man to man scheme because he could potentially be our best run blocker.

    As for our RBs, no, I do not think we have the right personel and most of all talent. I do not feel comfortable going into next season with a backfield like we have now. We still don't have a true workhorse/#1 back, and that is quite concerning when you have a team like the Jets who rely so heavily on their run game.
     
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    The Jets will have to file for Bankruptcy at that point.
     
  14. Mambo9

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    No we don't. A finesse LT, a mediocre LG, a great C, a RG who's always been more of a technique than a power guy and on the wrong side of 30 eith A LOT of wear (see hip surgery), an unproven RT (Ducasse) and a bad RT (Hunter).

    Let's also add an undersized TE to the mix and onlt 1 true power back (Greene).
     
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    Good post. I disagree, a little, with the power back...Powell has the potential to be that power back as well as Greene...but we shall see.

    Honestly, I am, fleetingly, hoping that Richardson falls to us in the draft. (pipe dream I know but a man has to have some hope)
     
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    Why couldn't/wouldn't they go with ZBS ?
     
  17. laxin

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    Greene is not a power back, in 2010 (can't find 2011 stats) out of 201 touches he only broke 10 tackles with a rate of 5%. That ranked 8th lowest amongst RBs. Through definition, a power back has to be able to break tackles... Add in the fact that he doesn't have good speed, burst an vision, he can't catch or pass protect and he wont creat any dynamic/game changing plays (longest run this season was 31 yards) and it all adds up to him not being capable of being that true workhorse that a ground and pound team revolves around.

    Fwiw, our offense was dead last when it comes to breaking tackles in 2010...
     
  18. laxin

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    Because we change offensive coordinators and OL coaches. Sparaon uses man to man blocking schemes.
     
  19. Jake

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    Woody was the huge loss. Jones and LT wore down by the end of the year and that's when Greene took over. It's clear we need two sufficient RBs to be a run heavy team. RT is the bigger concern, though.
     
  20. Demosthenes9

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    Do OC's ever change the types of schemes they use to match personnel ? Has Sparano or Rex come out and said that they are definitely changing from ZBS to man ?
     

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