My thoughts exactly,,,,,,Hunter anywhere on the line is a bad thing,,,,,he is a lot like monopoly,,,,,,,if , when you pass hunter collect $ 200 ,,our qb
Vlad needs to get his reps in training camp to early to tell but in my opinion there both equal in skill at this point hunter just knows the blocking schemes better and the audibles. i think Vlad is way more gifted though and has alot more potential.
And impatience is an overindulgent trait. Let Vlad have his chance..b/c if he works out at RT, everything else on the OL falls into place assuming interior depth is addressed via the draft. What happens if the Jets go Tackle round 1, he gets beaten out by Vlad & he's incapable of playing another position? Brick is signed long term and is a fixture, Vlad is manning down the RT...what is the future for that draft pick? It's one thing if he's a mid round pick w/ a reasonable salary..but what if he's a first or second round pick? he essentially becomes a high priced back-up and within a year fans are calling for tannenbaum's job and calling the guy a bust. Don't think it's possible? Whether you want to admit it or not Vlad has immense potential & entering year 3 of his development he will have a serious leg up on any rookie the Jets bring in. I don't think it's crazy. The answer is to give Ducasse his shot, & if he doesn't work out make a trade or signing for a veteran RT come August.
Hunter is not going to get better. The guy is 30. If he is a fucking idiot today he will be a fucking idiot tomorrow. Please FO find someone who can properly protect my Quaterbacks.
I don't know if Slauson can play RT or not but if Decastro is there the Jets better pick him. He looks the part of a future All-Pro Guard, could be the best player of his POSITION in this draft. And when your offensive line is coming off a year like last year you take a player of his caliber regardless of where he plays. Decastro next to Mangold now and in the future could make the Jets line the best in the league for years to come, especially if Ferguson returns to form. Switching from LG to RT is a difficult one, and IDK if Slauson could do it, but its certainly worth at try especially since Hunter and Vlad suck so incredibly bad.
No way Slauson has the feet to play RT for this team. He's a guard and nothing more. With that said I could understand the move for Decastro b/c he's a safe pick, he has a chance to be a dominant guard long term, and the Jets 2 starting guards are in the last year of their contracts. Does he help much year 1? Doubtful. He's not gonna beat out Moore or Slauson. Do you try him at RT year 1? You could..but I'm not sure how that works out & I'm not sure he beats out Ducasse at that spot. Bottom line: Fantastic long term pick who fills a immediate need in terms of depth, but likely makes little impact year 1. He also doesn't fill the Jets primary need from an overall roster perspective: They are in desperate need of upgrading the speed and athleticism.
I think Decastro would start day 1 at either guard position and give us quality depth with Slauson. If Moore isn't able to get back to the big time run blocker he was prior to the surgery I'd move Moore to the LG position and stick DeCastro at RG. Using DeCastro at RT wouldn't be the best use of his talent.
DeCastro definetely beats out Slauson at LG on day 1 of training camp, no questions asked. I don't really want to get into this argument with you again about your best friend Vlad Ducasse but I'll just say that if Slauson doesn't have the feet for RT, and I'm not sure he does, then Vlad 100% doesnt.. If DeCastro is drafted, he's the Jets starting LG and its Hunter vs. Slauson at RT and Ducasse is looking for a new career which is where he should be.
Vlad is not my "best friend". I'm just calling it like I see it. I watch O-line more than any other aspect of football. The fact remains he's nowhere near as bad of a player than many on here would lead you to believe. If you truly believe he has bad feet than I strongly suggest you omit from further talent evaluation of offensive linemen. Fact is Vlad has fantastic feet,explosion & natural strength. Physically he's about as good as it gets for an RT.Now if you want to make an argument about his mental capabilities, i can buy that. He's tentative in his reads, hesitant in his release out of his stance, & thinks too much on his feet. And it's 95% of his problem. Why is it so unbelieveable for so many of you that a player might get better w/ more time in the coache's office,practice field, film room & weight room? Especially an offensive linemen? If Vlad gets his mental issues fixed..wherein there is no question who his blocking assignment is & he starts reacting rather than thinking, he's a plus player at RT. I have yet to have one person come up with a feasible argument disputing this notion other than "He sucks" and "he's a bust". if I'm so off base in my evaluation..where are the examples? the one example you have given of him having bad feet couldn't possibly BE more wrong.
Do you think part of the thinking and mental part was the zone blocking scheme? I don't know much about o line play or the differences between zone and man blocking, but it wouldn't be a stretch to say Vlad might look better under man blocking, right? Curious to hear you opinion.
The last paragraph is simply untrue, myself and plenty of others in the past have said much more than just "he sucks" and "he's a bust," even though both statements are true. Also, you are not calling it like you see it with him. I don't deny that you watch the offensive line a lot and I admire that, but at the same time I think you like Vlad or are hoping for success from him over other players or whatever and ignoring things that you wouldn't with others. The reason I come up with that conclusion is because anytime anyone says anything bad about Ducasse you almost immediately have to post all these good things about him.. It's crazy... He's not a good NFL offensive lineman its as simple as that. Luckily, Now that Sparano is here everyone on the Offensive Line is a fresh slate. They all have to learn a new scheme and they will be looked at by him and the other members of the offensive staff equally - He's not going be looked at as a guy who had "potential" or a guy they drafted in the 2nd round, he's going to be looked at for what he is.. This is a good thing overall, but a bad thing for Vladimir Ducasse himself as it will likely mean he's cut.
and you haven't given a single example why vlad isn't a bust, other than because you said so b/c you think you're the expert above everyone else. the perfect example why ducasse sucks is b/c he couldn't beat out hunter last season when the jets desperately needed him to step up! so far, he's been a bust or he would have been on the field last year. so many people expect so much from ducasse when he's shown absolutely nothing to this point. yet some are thinking he's magically going to become a player because it's year three, just like sanchez has a chance to be magic b/c elli did it in his 4th year, so sanchez will also. just a lot of wishfull thinking and no grasp of reallity!
Yeah the ZBS I'm sure didn't help. there's alot of pre-snap reading & associated with it, & often times you're lateral out of your stance rather than upfield. To me, Ducasse is better sjuited for "man on man/fire off the ball" football. This is due to the fact that he isn't the smartest guy in the world, and also b/c he's a pure power player. Additionally, he never looked comfortable at guard. I remember hearing before the draft that he was pleading with teams in pre draft meetings to keep him at tackle & keep him away from guard. This isn't as bad as it sounds. Many linemen have preferences on which position/side of the line they play. Jets wanted Ducasse at guard b/c they had a need there w/ Faneca heading out of town, they wanted competition for Slauson & b/c he does have the physical skills to be a plus player at guard. That hasn't worked out. Keep him at Right tackle, keep his assignments simple, let him react instead of think..and you'll see a mauling right tackle in the mold of Leon Searcy. Luckily much of Sparano's blocking scheme in Miami emphasized man on man, and good release out of the snap. I think this will suit Ducasse well. I am extremely confident that Ducasse is going to shut up alot of the haters on this board. IN fact, i have little doubt.
Interesting, thanks. Ducasse did come in on a handful of plays this season as an extra TE, correct? I think I remembering seeing him and I never yelled his name so that's always a good sign. The FO seems to be banking on Vlad turning strong since they haven't even brought and o lineman in for a visit this offseason. Will be interesting to see what they do draft wise (I think they need at least 1 o lineman drafted in the lower rounds) and during cuts.
