I was away for the last 4 days but have returned to see that the sky is falling in Jets world. The Jets have only played one preseason game yet for some fact they are the worst team to ever take the field. Even more suprising is the fact that people are so upset at the Jets state when this year is and always was going to be a rebuilding year. It appears to me that some people are now upset at our draft even though it filled many holes. Some think we should have tried at all cost to trade for Bush. Others think we should trade away Vilma. And still others are yelling cut this guy and sign this guy. All I can say is I am glad we have this regime in place because they are making calculated moves while remaining calm and in control of the situation. It is impossible to fill every hole on a team, get that team in decent cap shape, get younger, and get better all in one year. However some posts imply this is exactly what needed to be done and now the regime is a failure for not completing this task. Does anyone agree with this thinking or am I just crazy. Thanks for letting me rant. Thoughts? Comments?
Ya man apparently losing a preseason game and only scoring three points means there's no point in the team playing this season. It's pretty pathetic how the sad sacks on this site, most of whom appear to have been around for maybe a week or two, decide we should start trading start players and cutting others because of less than perfect performances on Friday. I am convinced they either come here to act like idiots and stir up shit because they think it's fun, or they just know nothing about the game and the purpose of the preseason.
Sounds reasonable to me. It's only a pre-season game. It is the first time the 3-4 was used in a quasi-game situation. You would expect it not to be super crisp. They still have a few weeks to get it better. Clemens looked pretty good. Chad not too bad. Ramsey.......The jury is still very much out. O-line - definitely improved over what it was last year. Still needs to gel. Takes time. I don't see any glaring woes. RB - maybe, but I am not keen on the guys we could potentially trade for. As say, go with what we have; whatever happens; happens. We all knew we were not going to completely fix the mess left by Herm and Bradway in one year. It is what it is. It's normal.
People may SAY they believe its a rebuilding year, but in their hearts, they wanted to see a playoff bound Jets team. Now that reality has set in, the dissapointment seems to have given way to dispair. Those of us that knew what to expect aren't surprised one bit after one preseason game. We knew going in what kind of year its gonna be. The offense isn't, nor has it ever been, "sexy". The defense is still finding itself. This just may be the worst Jets team, record wise, in the Woody Johnson era but you have to start somewhere. Frankly, the Jets have no where to go but up so to the manic depressives out there: Relax and enjoy the rebuilding.
Mangini is still in the kitchen experimenting with the recipe. A little bland this past week. Next week a little more salt. We'll get a taste test Saturday and see where to take it from there. :wink:
A few comments... First, a lot of people are greatly over-reacting. Personally, I was encouraged by the play of the first team, and thats what really matters. Other than Blaylock, there weren't many sore spots with the opening unit. Obviously they didn't play great, but this is a rebuilding team, and we did witness two consecutive LONG drives. How many times did we see that last season? Second, don't forget the Jets won four games last season, and it could've been five if Nugent doesn't shank a field goal vs. New Orleans. That's five wins with a QB rotation of Testaverde/Bollinger, Martin playing on a gimp leg, Brandon Moore being the only member of the offensive line to finish the season in their original position, Chris Baker out for the year, McCareins playing on a gimp leg, Ellis and Robertson out for the whole second half of the year, the loss of Barton (Jets best defensive player in 2004), and Herm's one-track scheme that never allowed the offense to open up and relied on the Jets defense to come up with a win... Now anyone who thinks that these current Jets, healthy, plus rookies and free agent acquisitions, PLUS Mangini, minus Abraham and Law... are worse than the team the Jets fielded last year, well, you're out of your damn mind. The Jets are going to struggle at spots this year because they lack quality depth at many positions, and don't have a running back who is good for this season. But the Jets don't suck.
So if someone has a prediction different than yours it says something about their sanity? Sound reasoning.......
Great post man. That has been my thinking exactly. Everyone has been talking about the Jets not doing good this season. They will have a bad year, they are rebuilding, this and that. Then they see it with their own two eyes and they can't believe it. They want a playoff team like you said. Reality has set in. I don't agree with the end of your post though. The Jets can win 5 games this year.
I agree that there is an overwhelming amount of negativity in Jetsland these days, although I do not believe it is warranted to the extent it has been portrayed. We are clearly not going to make a Superbowl run this year, but I still believe we have the ability to go 8-8 this season. We went into a playoff team's stadium, and our first team outplayed their first team. If we were awarded the clear fumble and hobson could catch, one could make the argument that our first team DOMINATED their first team. Chad played a fluid game while running a vanilla offense, controlled the ball and time of possession, and orchestrated two long drives. Our defense was not great, but our first team did shut down their first team. Simms had two completions for 8 yards, and the Bucs averaged 3 yards per carry against our first team. All things considered, we actually looked better than I expected. We were very competitive in the first half, and it wasn't until the Bucs ran the ball down the throat of our backups that the game fell apart. In the very least, we have a competent coaching staff that can get our team prepared for a game. No more worries about X's and O's and clock management. Nothing I saw on Saturday suggests to me that we are worse than what I thought before the game.
Agreed. This was SUPPOSED to be a rebuilding year from the start. No one had high expectations for this team and even the biggest die hard has got to admit that the jets lack the talent this year to make any kind of serious run. That being said this year should be an opportunity to evaluate young talent and find out who's staying and who's going, and to start the foundation of a nucleus to build the Mangini era around. The moaning over just one pre-season game makes no sense, and calling our draft picks a mistake because Reggie Bush makes ONE great 44 yard run makes even less sense. If its this bad after just one preseason game, imagine the air around the boards in december. It'll get a lot uglier before it gets pretty.
- First year head coach, OC, DC. - All new systems. - 2 starting rookies on the OL. - Gaping NT hole. - The entire QB position. Anyone expecting anything other then what happened is deluding themselves. Besides, these are Jets fans. A lot of these guys look to assign blame after a win! You should see this place after a regular season game. Even if it's a convincing win, they still complain.
I was also away this past weekend (in Tenn) and grabbed a local paper there. There was an article about the Jets and they were saying that Chad and the first team looked good. Then I come back and it seems like we lost all 16 games already!
Why should any one expect rational? When you have been in a 37 year rebuild you do tend to become delussional in fact the delussions are very often much more entertaining than the reality. When you have a bad accident delussions can protect you from the reality. I look at being a Jet fan as kind of like an accident. I prefer the delussions to the cost of therapy.
People have to be patient and realistic. The Ira from Staten Island head up keister philosophy doesn't work. Herm and Bradway (and age and salary cap) slowly drained the talent from this roster. The team does need to be rebuilt and you can quibble with the Manginembaum vanilla meat and potatoes draft philosophy but they produced a solid roster building effort. That said, there were some chances to get stars like Bush in the draft and we didn't do it. Have to wait and see which way is right.
If we were #2 in the draft and Bush fell to us and we didn't take him, I would still be cleaning up the damage I would have done to my house, but Bush was not get-able; that is that. The cost would have been ridiculously too high to trade up. I have no problem with the decisions that were made. While I will be upset if the decisions do not pan out, I can not find fault with the logic based on the need. Just a thought on the pre-season game. If we had won 49-16, would everybody be saying that Chad or Clemens was going to the Pro-bowl and we are a lock at getting into the playoffs. I hope not................
Our 1st string D held the Bucs to 11 total yards. Anyone who knows anything about preseason will stop the "analysis" after the 1st team leaves the field. That being said, the Jets DESTROYED the Bucs. Kinda.
The reality? people can tell based on backups underperforming in the 2nd half of the 1st preseason game? The important thing is the 1st units played pretty well and we came away w/ no significant injuries. Going into TC I expected 6-7 wins and I still expect that. I was encouranged by what I saw the other night, I don't care what we did in the 2nd half. We didn't score but we moved the ball well in the 1st half and th D played pretty well. It's a nice start, next week I want to see more progress and some points on O but right now I am very happy w/ what I saw.
