The more I read about this kid the more I like what I hear and believe that with Rex his wild side can be harnessed. The kid seems to be a playmaker and has a killer mindset, two things that you do not really coach up. Im not saying its a good idea at 16, at 30 or even late second, but I was interested in what people have to say about this kid on the Jets and how he would fit. Lets remove the fact that Bart Scott is still a Jet and that it is a luxury pick we could ill afford at this point. There seems to be mixed camps on if he will be back or not so for purposes of this thread lets say we give BS the ax. Lets not talk about where we would pick him or what we would have to do to get him, simply if we think he would be a welcome addition.
Well he'd be a great replacement for bart scott. But you can't just throw out how we would acquire a draft prospect. Because we might as well discuss how Justin Blackmon, Matt Kalil, Andrew Luck and RGIII would look in green and white as well. They would all look very good and be great fits for us, but they aren't going to end up here because we can't trade up into the top 4. Burfict is 'more' likely, but I think his value comes from 25-40, thats where he would ultimately end up in my mind. So we either have to trade backwards, or forwards in order to select him and get adequate value.
Agreed, but the likelihood of finagling picks up or down is far greater within the 25-40 range than in the top 5. Im enamored with this kid and would be thrilled if we moved around to pick him up.
a lot of Burficts overall stock is going to depend on his interviews. somebody described him as a top 20 talent, with the maturity of a 5th rounder. If Burfict interviews well, he could move up boards, but by the same token if he blows the interview process he could end up in the mid-late second round....
He's a dog. Burfict and coples are the biggest dogs in this draft. i don't want any part of either. Burfict couldn't get on the field and Coples's didn't make a play all year.
Just for Shits and Giggles, Coples had 55 tackles, 7.5 sacks, and 15 TFL's this past year. missed 1 game Burfict had 69 tackles 7 TFL's and 5 sacks to go with an INT and a FR. didnt miss any games neither had stats that just blow you out of the water, but they both played and were productive this past year.
Burfict scares the hell out of me. I'm not touching him in round 1. Round 2, with Rex, it would be an interesting gamble. But this team has way too many needs to take a wild child ILB in the first round.
I don't want anything to do with this kid. He may turn out to be a real star in the NFL, but I think the risk is to high for this team in particular. No thanks. I would much, much, much rather have Donta Hightower.
Love this guy's film. I think he could replace Bart scott day one. I don't know enough about his discipline issues to give an opinion.
His physical upside is through the roof. He is immature but I think its correctable. Either way I'm not touching him in round one
I wouldnt be surprised if the Ravens got him in the first, They need a future ILB. With discipline from that team and a good system he would be perfect for them.
I agree. They will take that chance because Ray-Ray (strange as it amy seem) keeps everyone in line in that lockerroom. Before this year's debacle, I thought we might be a perfect fit and I still love Burfict, but I don't think we can take him simply from a public relations standpoint. HOWEVER - if you look at Tanny's track record, he aalways drafts a replacement for a guy the year before his contract is up, and next year Bart is cuttable, Bart slowed down this year, he's expensive and we've already paid David Harris. PLUS, Burfict is the type of on-the-field leader that we've been missing on both sides of the ball since Rex got here. I think we're probably the second likeliest destination for Burfict. That is all.
His interviews will tell the story of how high he goes. There is no debating his physical talent is 1st round material and based on physical talent alone is worth the 16th pick. With that said, unfortunately he is not right fit for the Jets at this particular time and unless he really does well in the interviews I don't think he will be a 1st round pick. Just way too many red flags with him that make a 1st rd pick too risky.
Trade the first round pick for two second rounders. There are enough talented players falling due to slight injury concerns and character issues that they'll get great undervalued guys who will give Rex a chance to prove he's a players coach. Imagine getting burfict, barron and one of the top remaining OL's in round 2... the rest would be gravy.
From Rotoworld, After speaking to NFL scouts and assistant coaches at the Combine, CBS Sports' Bruce Feldman suggests Arizona State ILB Vontaze Burfict is in for a draft-day plunge. "I'm not sure any player here sparked a worse reaction than Vontaze Burfict," writes Feldman. "I wouldn't touch him," one scout said. "... The guy is completely out of control. There's no way you could trust him. I can't believe they (ASU coaching staff) didn't cut him loose." Added one NFL coach, "You just scratch your head at some of the knucklehead things he does on tape. It was the same thing over and over and over again with him."