1) I'm sick of Pennington. The shoulder thing is gonna be an issue everytime the guy gets touched. Enough, it's a waste of time now. Play Clemens who was the only Jet who looked good Friday. 2) They have absolutely no weapons on offense. It's embarrassing. 3) They have no defensive players suited for the 3-4. It goes against the strengths of Vilma, Ellis and Robertson. 4) Their WR's, as a group, are so freakin mediocre and they never address it in the draft. I love that some of the rocket scientists on this board like to say, "Cut Macerins." Why? So then they could have a division III WR core? 5) Cedric Houston isn't even close to being a NFL starting rb, Blaylock is a third down back as is Leon Washington. If they ever got Chris Brown or Thomas Jones, it would be a tremendous improvement,,, BY DEFAULT ...
Agree to a degree Keep Pennington in until he gets hurt. Will give the line time to gel a bit and Clemens time to learn. By week 6 Chad will get crushed and Kellen will come in and give us that usual Troy Taylor / Glen Foley type of a boost we need to make us buy those season tickets again. As my unpopular post states we really F-ed up not going ba*&s out to get Reggie Bush, he was in reach. Now we are stuck with a Sh&% sandwich of no-name losers. They should have listened to C-Mart. McCarins ... what the hell, keep him, does it really make a difference.
Personally I believe Chad is a no brainer for starting QB. You dont want a rookie QB with a rookie coach and a new offense. Chads knowledge of the game will come in extremly handy and he will simply be able to do things that kellen will not his first year in the league. If you can not see that then you dont know the NFL. Most starting defenses will EAT a rookie QB with a rookie line and a rookie coach. At least with Chad he can put some veteran knowledge into the plays. Kellen should start next year the earliest. Chad looks good as of right now. There is absoluletly no reason to put a rookie QB in the fire behind a rookie line right now. Unless of course your not a jet fan and you want to see the Jets future QB get killed his first year. Maybe if our oline didnt feature a rookie center and tackle. Maybe if the coach wasnt a rookie. Maybe then I would look more closely at starting Kellen knowing that his protection knew what the were doing. But thats not the case. An idiot can clearly see that.
Lets jump back to January 2006. The new front office came in. They got rid of veterans to clear the cap and then they didn't sign many free agents. A few of the holes we already had were addressed through the draft, with players who will need time to develop. All signs over the last 7 months have pointed to a rocky 2006 season. Why is everyone NOW acting surprised? Were some people just not paying attention?
I agree too..big deal. Whats the big surprise or breaking news of this post. You're sick and tired of Pennington...and? Mangini will be sick and tired of him also. Im sure the gameplan is for the Jets to throw Pennington to the wolves. Three things could happen. 1. He gets reinjured..and buys time for Clemens to learn the system. 2. Our record sucks...if the jets are 2-7...lets start to find out if Clemens is the guy...a year earlier than we should. 3. The Jets surpise the world...and after 7 weeks they are 4-3. Pennington is still standing...Pennington remains the qb. Big deal. Second thing..they have no weapons on offense...more breaking news. When you spend your first two picks trying to lock up 40% of your offensive line..thats what happens. Blame the previous regime for that...not this one. Third....no players for the 3-4. I refuse to judge anyone on this team until week 8...did you think we are going to the superbowl? Only BLITZKRIEG believes his team is..lets enjoy the building..and watch the Dolphins. Wide Receivers...there I will agree with you..but once again..this is what EM/MT inherited...you dont go from having nothing to having everything in 6 months. You either have to sit back and watch the rebuilding...or burn yourself out looking for growth...every month, day, hour and minute. We cant all be Dolphin fans going to the superbowl this year..right blitz?
I don't know how often we're going to have to discuss this, but I for one lowered my expectations months ago. And nothing has changed or materialized in order for me to raise the bar. This is a 2-year rebuild, minimum. I don't know how anyone can see it any other way So, for me or anyone else to get all excited and worked up over individual situations like the RB situation, the nose tackle thing or any other solitary problem or sets of problems is mental masturbation at this point. We need one more good draft and a little luck in F/A before we can even hope to contend. Play Clemens now? Why? So we can get him banged up and finish 8-8 instead of 6-10? Think of Pennington as a tool right now. He's a tool we're using to bide time. Same thing with trying to fix the RB thing RIGHT NOW, so we can win a few more games. Go crazy and give up good future draft picks because our backup RBs had one mediocre preseason game? On DEF, should we abandon the 3-4 right away because our players need to adjust to it? We've got some WR's, but they all stink because Penny can't throw more than 12 yards. This whole thing is going to require a long-term horizon. There's no quick fix here. The sooner most Jets fans realize this, the less angst they'll have.
Let's all take a timeout. One game. Reading this board during the game (as I couldn't watch the game live) it sounded as thought the team was the second coming of the '76 Bucs. Having now seen the film, the first half wasn't all that bad. Yea, the scrubs were horrible in the second half, but that's what they are. If anyone should be worried, it's the '06 Bucs. The Jets moved the ball on them in the first quarter easily. Are we going to the playoffs. No, but didn't think we would. Are we headed for 4-12 land? No. Do we have great offensive weapons? No, but do you think the Jets were going to flash their full playbook in the first game of the preseason?
Your points can be taken without arguing any of them. But, you have to put this in the proper perspective. You know Mangini is aware of these points, but this is what he has now. There will be no loyalty to Pennington if he gets seriously hurt again. We have 2 rookies on the O line. There is no runner that comes close to "half" of a premier back. There is some talent in the WR corp, but nothing established, and the defense will go through growing pains with the 3-4 transition. So what did you expect? What can anyone expect? That we'll be 7-1 at the midpoint? Not happening! This 1st half schedule is BRUTAL. We'd be lucky if we win one game. This will be a process, with change the main theme, until Mangini finds the right parts. Believe me he knows he's going nowhere this year. We are not competing for a playoff spot. Its a matter of having lowered expectations, enjoying the development of younger players, and seeing progress that will give us optimism for the coming years. I'm excited to see this process unfold.
Sadly, I have to agree. Jets have ZERO talent at the running back position, unless the Martin thing is a smokescreen. My son walked in the room and when he saw no Curtis his face just dropped. It's hard for a ten year old to think of the Jets with no #28. If you can't run the ball, you can't pass the ball. Conversely, if you can't throw downfield, that makes it even harder to run the ball. 10 yard passes don't do it...and for Penington to even have a ten yard pass the receiver has to run for three of those yards. You can't score points dinking it and dunking it down the field. Eventually, something goes wrong. Someone jumps, someone misses a block. Guys start getting tired after 10 plays. That's when the QB has to bail them out by winging one. Twenty yard passes like the kind Warner threw on the Rams or Peyton does now are what does the trick. I don't think Chad can complete a twenty yard pass. He looked like he was going to try one when the ball got knocked out of his hands. Two other things. What is with the f'ing fade pattern? I am so sick of that play. The last twenty times I've seen the Jets run the play it hasn't worked, no matter who the coach is. Maybe it worked once in week 16 or 17 last year when I stopped watching. The other thing is Becht. I'm so sick of people calling him a bust, etc etc. Do people think it is a coincidence that his last year on the team Curtis led the league in rushing, then until Cadillac got hurt last season HE was ripping up the league?...cause it's NO coincidence. Most plays, a tight end is another O-lineman. Laugh all you want, but the Jets have really really missed this guys blocking. They NEED a blocking tight end.
All of his points are agreeable because this had all been established months ago. The fact that people are just now catching on is pretty amazing.
1. Agree 2. Agree 3. Agree 4. Not so sure about this one. At least # 2 WR money wouldn't be spent on less than Division III talent and production. 5. Agree
What did you people expect? We're in the middle of a full rebuilding process. Why is that so hard to understand?
no, it will be a concern everytime he gets hit, but unless he gets injured it isn't an issue at all. there is a difference. I fail to see how it is an issue if he get sacked five times a game and gets up everytime and is fine.
