Tavaris Jackson?! wtf are you serious bro? I don't care how you define swag/alpha but Mark's got it. during the game when the camera pans over to the sideline, I don't think I seen any player with more intense eyes. Eli in his rookie season was a BUM. Mark is already light years beyond that. you are a pure hater. jealous much. u sound like Mark screwed ur girl or something
I added Rodgers and I forgot Brady. Add Brady too. I said ManningS to count for both. And yes if we needed one drive I would take Mark over Cutler and Schaub and Rivers, especially the Rivers of this year. And no I did not say anything about a trade so thanks for trying to twist my words. I answered the question about the 4th quarter, game on line/drive, playoffs and I think Brady, Brees, Eli, Peyton, Rodgers, Big Ben and maybe Stafford or Flacco. That puts Sanchez in the top 10 QB's if we needed one drive, like what I was saying. No way Newton goes above him or Ryan who hasn't won a playoff game and put up 0 points in a loss. I don't think that's too unreasonable. Of course if we were discussing trades and over the length of the season the list would be drastically different. I answered the question and you are trying to change what I said.
In the 4th quarter, playoffs, game on the line, needing a score or you go home for the year, I'd take Sanchez over everybody but Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger and maybe Eli right now. Most QB's perform randomly under that set of circumstances. A few totally screw things up on a regular basis. A few seem to have the clutch thing. Sanchez has the clutch thing. I'd take him over everybody but Rodgers with less than 2 minutes left and needing 7.
Wait so one drive left and you need 7 to win/tie and you would take him over Brady, Brees, Eli, Peyton? I was nodding my head in agreement until the bold part. Can you explain why? That's a strong statement.
The book is out on Happy Feet. There won't be any fourth quarter playoff games for him to come back in. Times are about to get real ugly in Jet land again!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA At least you are staring at his eyes, and the bulge in his pants. That is something, I guess. This is insanity. Plain and simple. Mark has no swag. Literally none. I really dont give a shit about Mark Sanchez, I just want him off the Jets so that I can once again buy Jets tickets and go to games. But as long as he is here, I cannot do that because he is a joke, and a refuse to support a team who keep talking SB and parading out a QB who based on his play should have never been allowed to play HS football..
I'd take Sanchez precisely because he can keep a play alive with his his feet and make a tight throw when the options are open in front of him. One of the things that is nuttiest about the way the Jets used Sanchez is that they didn't use his mobility at all in the scheme. We only got to see that in the two minute drives and late in the game when the Jets were down and going no-huddle. When Sanchez scrambles he draws guys in from the secondary. Less people to cover equals more chance a receiver comes open late in the play. Sanchez hits the receiver. The Jets have another late score and often another GWD or 4QCB for Sanchez. For a smart guy Schotty was dumb as a pile of bricks in terms of getting the most out of his players.
at this point in his career, he's a blend of learning/average. i am no way saying that he's a franchise qb today, but he has the potential to turn into one given the right system
Some of Sanchez's biggest plays are from scrambling. Think Tone this year against the Bills, Braylon last year at NE to jump start him. Him to JCO in cleveland. Him against Pitt to Tone in the playoffs was on a rollout. You are correct in saying that it was strange we didn't move the pocket especially with our subpar o line play this season.
Didn't mean to twist your words and I want Mark to be a top 5 QB. Just do not see him in the top 10 currently in any situation. This is not bashing him or his fans it is my perspective watching the games. Can Shonn Green be considered a top 5 RB? What if he ran behind ATLs, Houstons or Bals offensive line then is he as good as Rice, Foster or Turner? Seems like this is the logic that is being used for Sanchez which is why I asked about his trade value because if someone is willing to take another QB over Sanchez straight up then they must think has more to offer.
I don't understand what your saying? Are you saying you wouldn't put Sanchez top ten in needing one drive in the 4th quarter of the playoffs? I agree that Sanchez isn't a top ten QB, he probably falls into the top 20-22 of all QB's in the league. But he has shown flashes and games of potential to build on which is why I want to give him his 4th year. He doesn't improve with an offense that is built to his strengths, time to find a new QB.
Relying on the Qb, as a designed play, to roll out is very limiting on the O. You give up route running, for the most part. No timing plays, set patterns, throwing to spots. Basically the receivers run out, have to turn to see where and when the Qb is, and then adjust accordingly. Rolling out also puts your Qb at greater risk of injury, since he tends to be more exposed. It's just not a reliable and effective NFL offense.
Great points, and by rolling out you effectively take away 50% of the field. No QB is going to roll-out right, throw back across his body to the left side of the field.
Peyton, Brees, Rogers, Brady, big ben, Eli, Vick, Rivers, Ryan, Schaub would put the QBs above ahead of Mark in this situation. Thru Eli I think that we agree. Vick because he is so dynamic, Rivers, Ryan, Schuab because of their ability to throw the ball.
Good points. Although I think we lacked just simple rollouts in general for this team. I think you can run timing patterns also. I have seen teams snap the ball and everyone moves to the right (o line and qb) and he hits someone turning around quickly. I'm not saying run things like this every play, but we didn't seem to run them at all. Instead we like putting Cromartie at WR and flanking Conner out wide before we motion him back behind the QB
I think it was bizarre. A lot of the problems when Schotty was here came out of him needing to see his system work. The Jets most effective play of the last 6 seasons against good playoff caliber defenses came either in the Ground and Pound or the Hurry Up. Why they started so many games in the Mutant and did not evolve out of there until half time is beyond rational analysis.
