Mark Sanchez is the least effective QB in the league when under pressure. -PFF http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/01/31/pressure-and-the-2011-quarterbacks/ Clearly it's not all the OL's fault. Not saying Hunter wasn't horrendous this year, but I really just can't see why so many people here support Sanchez so staunchly. Cliff's notes of article: -Average grade of NFL QB under pressure was -7.1 -Highest rated QB under pressure scored a 9.8 -Sanchez finished last in the league with a -25.1, nearly 5 points worse than the second worst QB in the league under pressure. Not only is he bad under pressure, he's TERRIBLE. Oh and he had the second most turnovers of any QB in the league for 2011.
No, but your utter lack of reading comprehension does. The article takes into account the # of times the QB was pressured, it's all done in percentages.
Not necessarily. I think there is a difference between being under pressure right out of the gate with no time to progress through reads, and having a few moments to see what is going on then having the pressure come. There was to many times to count this past season when Mark got to the end of his drop and the d line was all over him. All qbs need time even the great ones. It seemed that Sanchez had better protection in 2010 allowing him to get those pressure throws out of his hands.
Honestly, now we're trying to defend Sanchez by saying he had less time to think per pressure than most other QB's? What an absurdly vague and immeasurable stat to even begin to try and reference. Even calling it a "stat" seems ludicrous. Jesus Christ people will cling onto anything to make their point...
Last game of the year vs us told you all you need to know. He regressed big time this year and will just be an average QB from here on out...
Does PFF give the average second per pressure metric? It would be worth looking at to see exactly what pressure means in context. Sanchez had a dozen dropbacks last season where the defense basically beat him to the spot in the backfield and leveled him. Some of them were blindside hits and some of them were Hunter lying prone on the ground and his man basically just having to hurdle him to get a straight run at Sanchez. The answer is that not all pressures are created equal. Ones that happen immediately tend to be more devastating than ones where the QB gets a couple of seconds to set his feet.
Relax Not defending just pointing out the difference between the two seasons. Did you watch a single game this year because if you did you would have noticed that he could not get a 3 step drop in with out being under pressure. So you can bring up vague shit and one else can. It must be true because some dude on the internet told you so. Right on man.
If he wasn't getting constantly rattled because of blown blocking assignments, or stuck in long yard situations because of stupid penalties, or if he had a decent running game, or reliable deep threat, things would have been different. There are so many factors that are not factored into that calculation. Where does Schotty stupidity calculate into that? Earlier in the year, we saw Sanchez make nice moves to escape sacs. He got progressively more banged up as the season went on. Sanchez did well despite the odds being against him. I think we really should hire Peyton Manning.... As a QB coach!
The Jets are an average team with a sub-par quarterback. No shit. Next year they both have to play better.
Omg! You are right. Instead of giving him one last chance....Let's TRADE HIM and put in McElroy 'cause he's the FUTURE of the NY Jets. give me a break....ANY QB that is under the same pressure Mark was in, with how bad the O-line was, would struggle. Nice JERK-like response, buddy. I'm sure you'll make many friends here. Aren't you doing the same thing, though? You didn't create this thread for ANY other purpose other than to basically say "I think Mark Sanchez sucks and I want him gone". ADMIT IT.
I posted the following on another site in response to the same article. In that thread, people were complaining about how in response to this article the Sanchez supporters would start making excuses. ----------- There is a difference between making excuses and a critical analysis of a player and why/why not he is performing. Good QB play does not happen in a vacuum. There are the rare 2-3 QBs (Manning, Brady, Montana, etc) that come along every decade or so that can perform at such a high level that they can over-compensate for what would otherwise be fatal flaws on a team with a less than HOF QB. And right now and always, there about 28 teams every year in the NFL with this problem. For teams without that rare talent, alot of things need to happen. The O-line, RBs, TEs, WRs and playcalling all have to synch up to optimize QB play. That is generally the biggest factor in a QB performing well at an early stage in their career, as it builds confidence and allows them time develop (i.e. make mistakes) while minimizing the impact of errors. We can all have an opinion of Mark Sanchez as to whether he will ever be a Manning, Brady, etc. The fact of the matter is that our opinions don't matter as the book is still not written on Sanchez. More importantly, if drafting and developing a franchise QB was as simple as people around here claim it was, there would be a lot less activity on this board as you all would have jobs in NFL front offices. The question that does matter is whether you can win in the playoffs with Mark Sanchez as QB. That has been answered 6 times on the road and he is 4-2. Of course there are caveats to the above - during the past two years there was a very specific formula - he had strong defenses, offensive lines, running games, and special teams play that contributed to that success. This past year the Jets deviated from that formula across the board in play calling, play design, player acquisition, etc. Mark did not have a strong defense (see nonexistent safety play, Bart "can't wait to miss a tackle" Scott, Bryan Thomas hurt, rebuilt d-line and overall lack of speed at LB position); the offensive line was hampered by injuries (Mangold and Moore) and poor play (exhibit 1 - Wayne Hunter); he had diva WRs who dropped passes, ran poor routes, couldn't get seperation and spent more passion arguing with teammates off the field than making plays on it (Holmes, Burress and Mason); and an offensive coordinator who decides to switch from a run oriented team to a pass happy team with no off-season and while incorporating basically a new WR receiver corps after the FO dumped 3 veterans. ST play took a step back and gave up SIX possessions with turnovers. For good measure, I will throw in Brian Schottenheimer, who needed Tom Moore to come in as a consultant to improve the team to #1 in the redzone despite the fact that he is the offensive coordinator responsible for developing the young QB. Can anyone hold Mark Sanchez accountable for the above? Anyone? Didn't think so... Now what is Mark Sanchez accountable for? He is responsible for his play on the field, which despite the above circus, he still was able to post career highs in passing while showing steady improvement over his first two years. In analyzing his performance you need to take into account the guy came out of college after his junior year with only 16 starts and started what would have been his senior year as an NFL rookie and what should have been his rookie year as 2nd year player. There is no template on measuring a players development in this scale and it is faulty logic to compare his progression to that of QBs with 4 years of college ball and a year or two on the bench. Additionally, was Mark's improvement as good as everyone wanted? No it wasn't and in order for him and the team to take the next step he needs to rededicate himself to his craft or he will end up as a JAG sitting on another team's bench as a back-up in a few years. But it doesn't help that he is being touted and marketed as a franchise QB by Jets management and Rex, while playing in the hyper NYC market of neurotic Jets fans. The Jets gave Chad Pennington, Ken O'brien, Richard Todd, etc, far more opportunities with less return on investment than what Sanchez has delivered to date. I don't think it is alot to ask for just a bit more patience - and Eli Manning and Drew Brees (not saying Sanchez will be as good) are perfect examples of why you don't give too early on young Qbs.
