With the chance the Giants actually win a superbowl, i see woody/tanny becoming desperate to make a splash. If we go out and sign a premier FA OLB, would you still want an olb for the first pick (most common thing on these boards) or do you draft someone else? If not an olb who do you draft with that first pick? Personally id desperately want us to trade down to an olb needy team, then get a project like chandler jones in the 2nd
With the amount of holes on this team, I think it would be horribly redundant to sign a FA OLB and then draft one with the 1st rounder. If we didn't go OLB in the first, assuming we addressed this during FA we could go either OL or WR and wouldn't be upset with either of those choices. Mock drafts have DeCastro and Alshon around 16 and both of those players could be huge 1st yr contributors. I really don't like to think about the idea of getting a "project". Its not often that we will be picking in the top 20 (hopefully) and if given the opportunity to draft a solid player I hope we take it and not trade down. Who is this big name OLB you are referring to though? Mario Williams, or is this just hypothetical?
Well there are gonna be several options jarret johnson, avril, williams. Dont get me wrong i thought the idea of us signing an OLB was ridiculous a few weeks ago, hell even a few days ago. But w the giantz in the superbowl i truly see the FO attempting to make a massive splash this off season to stop the bleeding. Whether its chasing Peyton or Williams both previously ridiculous, suddenly are actually fractionally plausable now
If we sign Mario Williams of Cliff Avril, we cant go OLB in the 1st with all of the wholes we have. I would pick Richardson in .1 milliseconds if he dropped in this scenario... Otherwise I think OL and WR become the major priority- Jonathan Martin, Decastro, Alshon and Michael Floyd are the next options... But all could potentially be gone in some scenarios. If Richardson, Martin, Reiff, DeCastro, Floyd and Jeffery were all gone I would think about trading back and then picking someone like Donta Hightower. With this being said, I dont see us signing either of Williams and Avril. Oh, and BTW, I kind of really like Chandler Jones...
Mario Williams has to be our #1 option, it will be a hard sell but adding him takes this defense from good to great, 1 cover safety and we're elite
IMO the Texans would be foolish not to franchise him. Did he have a clause in his previous contract prohibiting the tag?
You look at the teams that have a good pass rush in this league and there are usually two guys that teams really have to worry about. In Denver it's miller and dumervil, the giants have tuck, Paul, and Osi, the niners have the smiths. I think if the jets were to land a guy like Mario Williams in free agency you have him as an all down player and then you can throw Maybin in on passing situations and that does give them a double threat. So if that does happen I would probably lean toward o-line or safety in rd one and the possibility of moving down a few spots to grab more picks. That said I kind of like the talent this yr at olb so not sure if spending big money on a free agent is the route I would take.
What makes you believe Williams will be free to sign anywhere? If I'm the Texans I slap the franchise tag on him and there is no way the Jets will give two #1's for Mario.
In the scenario that we sign a pure pass rusher, Avril or Williams being the best targets, I would draft Courtney Upshaw without a moments notice provided Richardson doesnt fall. Upshaw is the perfect 'complimentary' LB, he can do it all pretty well. We need first and foremost that elite pass rusher, which is why I advocate grabbing a different OLB than Upshaw. However, if we get an elite rusher in FA, Upshaw should be the #1 target, and then we could be sitting pretty with our weakest unit on the defense nearly rebuilt from the ground up in one offseason. Calvin Pace starts opposite the FA signing until Upshaw is ready to roll, then Pace becomes his mentor and leaves after the season. It's perfect. If Upshaw is gone (again in the scenario where we already have signed a premium pass rusher) we pass on the other OLB's, and look to grab a WR, RT, DeCastro, or possibly even a guy like Hightower or Dre Kirkpatrick (with the idea of moving him to safety)
No, but these deals have been worked out in the past. Hell we traded John Abraham in the same manner for a first rounder. Mario Williams would definately be worth the #16 overall pick to me. That said, if we could get him without having to trade for him, thats far and away a better option.
With all the "loud mouth Rex" fodder from the talking heads, I would suspect we do the opposite. Stockpile picks, develop rapport INSIDE the lock room, Stay out of the media (minus the few obvious who wont be back, Plax, LT), and have a huge chip on their shoulders in the summer!
The only one of those things I see even a fractional chance of the Jets doing is having a huge chip on their shoulders. Everything else is never gonna happen
But its classic Rex, to go against the grain and the use the us vs the world tactics. Remember, this was our ideaology when we made the AFCCG runs the past 2 years. "and the fucking Jets"! That said, we will not make a splash in FA (we did it last year), I see us building through the draft and current roster development; no matter what the Giants do/did.
the "Entire Defense"? We have some very good building blocks, some would say top teir talent to build around *Revis *Harris *Cro *Wilson *Wilkerson (is only going to get better) *Ellis (same here, will only get better) Needs to be upgraded * OLB (both spots, need to draft early here in my opnion) * Both FS and SS spots (3 players) * ILB (draft so we can get rid of BS) * NT (If we dont re-sign Sinoe, mistake if we dont, max 3 year deal).
That's actually how the jints did it this year, their GM was getting all kinds of flack for not making a splash in the offseason & building through the draft, well look where that philosophy got them... somewhere we haven't been in nearly 45 yrs. :sad:
I Would be all over that shit. Mario just turned 26, Entering the prime of his career and in just 5 games as a 3-4 Outside Linebacker he had 5 Sacks. He's a bonafide beast of a pass rusher.
