The only similarities between the Mangini tenure and Ryan tenure are the team tanked down the stretch during year 3. The key difference is the Jets had 4 playoff wins the previous two years under Ryan, and zero under EM. That is why RR should not be on the hot seat, and in fact, nowhere fuckin' near it. It'll be a different story if they tank again next year.
To be fair all this bullshit is happening during the offseason. The superbowl is in a couple of weeks, and within a week or 2 after that all of this will be ancient history. I wouldnt expect to hear about any of this bullshit again until next preseason when its nothing more than an after thought. Of course it could get a bajillionity times worse if something bad happens with Sanchez/Holmes but im strongly doubting it will. At the end of the day it was all end of the season crap that came after we lost, and imo will make us stronger next year
The scary thing is that its happening at all DCM. A lot of it is Rex's fault as at the end of the day, Rex is the HC, not just the DC or Father Confessor. Rex has at most, next season to show improvement and just like Sanchez, he's gonna be evaluated not on the 2 AFCCG's but on how he succeeded, or didn't, in bringing the team back together. Another 8-8 or worse season and Rex might as well put his house on the market.
I meant differences in results. But yeah, Rex's D has made THAT much of a difference. Now let's get him an offense.
You missed the point. I agree with you. Rex needs to have an offense that compliments his defense. They will not do that. The Tuna is practically in the building. 2012 will be another playoffs near-miss. Bet on it.
good point abyz. i dont like having so many of Parcells fingerprints on the organization. even if its not Sparano, there will definitely be a house cleaning if the chaos and underachieving keeps up.
Free Agency and the Draft can't come soon enough. Rex Ryan is not on the hot seat. Sanchez is on the hot seat.
So Rex gets us to 2 AFC title games and finished one game out of the playoffs and he's on the hot seat? Are people retarded? I mean really?
Why should Tanny's job be safe? Apparently it is, but it's not as if he hasn't picked all these coaches or had bad drafts. And why do we keep a failed GM (Bradway) around and have him play a role in screwing up drafts still?
Mangini only had one losing season, and that team was not nearly as talented as Rex's teams have been. The first year he got to the playoffs with Leon Washington as the main back and Cotchery as the number one receiver lol. Then in the third year they were headed for big things before Favre torpedoed the thing.
ir·rel·e·vant/iˈreləvənt/ Adjective: Not connected with or relevant to something. Synonyms: irrelative - insignificant - unimportant - immaterial the fact that it was national news that the Jets missed the playoffs kind of disputes the fact that they aren't relevant. how many other teams not in the playoffs continue to be the topic of national discussion? just the Colts for obvious reasons. it doesn't matter why they are a topic of discussion, just that they are. being irrelevant means nobody cares. nobody is talking about the Titans or Jaguars right now. they are irrelevant. please explain how the Jets fall anywhere near the definition above.
Please, this is just silly speculation with absolutely no weight behind it. The year was bad, it wasn't end all be all. It does not erase the first two seasons with Rex, which were some of the best seasons I have had the pleasure of watching since becoming a Jet fan. Tony Sporano is a good fit, who shares the same views as Rex Ryan. Parcell's has no leash on this organization, Rex isn't on the hot seat, and It's silly to think Sporano is the underlined back up plan by upper management. I don't buy it.
Maybe I'm in the minority here but I want Rex, long term. I'm tired of new coaches every few years. let's BUILD something instead of constantly starting over, why are we constantly changing shit and then surprised we aren't achieving anything? You have to build something, invest work and time and then pay offs happen, very few things in life can happen in an instant without the stars aligning. Even Bill Cowher had 3 seasons of not reaching the playoffs consequently, yet was still kept. Eventually he won the Superbowl. The guy has shown competence (I would say more than just "competence"), why not stick with him because we had one "average" season, where we were 1 game, if not 1 play, from making the playoffs? Yes, we had a locker room cancer and shit went haywire, but if anything, I feel like this instant success mentality is part of the reason we're in the mess to begin w ith.
1. I strongly believe that, Jets scouting department needs a serious overhaul. I do believe Clinkscale is a good guy, but I think Bradway should be canned. If Clinkscale bolts, then Jets really need someone qualified to oversee the college prospects. 2. That said, I would also claim that, if Tannenbaum keeps trading the picks away, he should be canned too. He can go back to his capologist root - that's where I am comfortable to see him at, actually. 3. It takes a while to restock depleted squads - doing so through draft is even harder, but that is THE right way to build a winning franchise that doesn't fall into mediocrity after short 2 year run of play off appearance. 4. One thing I do not understand is this dumb fan base for the Jets. When Schottenheimer was posting below-average results year in and year out, even SDF formed out of thin air to defend that moron - yet one 8-8 season and now we see people calling the head of Ryan? Where is the logic in that? Anyone?
I just watched the interview at newyorkjets.com. A couple thoughts: 1) Sparano laughed at the perception of his philosophy being primarily run-dominant. He points out how when he was a HC at the NCAA he used a "run and shoot" offense, a lot of 4 wide sets, et al. 2) He praised Rex's character, said he thinks it will be fun to work with him. 3) He said he was one of Rex Ryan's guys in his normal tone of voice. I didn't detect anything more than a sincere statement there.
And back to a team with a horrific image and a locker room mess that was caused directly by the head coach. The team that no one wanted to play in the playoffs was the 2010 Jets, not the 2011 Jets.
