Honestly, Belichick hates to trade up, he let's the draftboard come to him. Not that I think Belichick is a draft guru, he's not, he's made quite a few bad picks. Trading down and adding more picks creates the chance to hit some hiomeruns....like Gronk & Hernandez. Tanny can be the inpatient one. The last 2 years the Jets have done well letting the 1st Rd pick come to them....Mo Wilk & K Dub were good picks.
This, and it is so fucking annoying, he needs to just fucking pick them all before Brady's time is done, but I think the Pats would hate either us drafting Mercilus or Richardson, we have to go all out this offseason I think and beat these assholes twice and finally reign supreme in this division I want to go to a damn home playoff game
I think in the pre-rookie Salary Scale era this was very true, because of the unpredictability of rookie contact negotiations; without that wildcard coming into play, Belichick may decide that a trade up for a specific standout player has higher odds of success. Belichick is not averse to taking chances.
Brady is somehow only 34, and with the rules protecting Quarterbacks these days, short of another fluke knee injury, there's not much reason to think he won't be around for a good while longer. I don't expect them to stop trading down anytime soon sadly in other words.
He probably has 2 more years like the one he had this past year, I'm not saying he will decline significantly, but his numbers will dip maybe 1,000 yards and 5-10 Td's in 3 years at age 37, although that's still 4100 yards passing and 30 TD's lol, he just isn't as physically fit as Brett Favre
I think the biggest reasons RBs fall is because: 1) it's one of the easiest positions to come right out and play at. 2) due to #1, you can find a decent RB anywhere in the draft. 3) the career span of a RB is much less than I think any other position. 4) due to 1 through 3, no one wanted to pay top dollar for that. With that said, I feel like we're going to see some changes with that due to the new rookie wage scale. You don't have to break the bank for rookies anymore, which is awesome. You can just draft BPA with a lot less concern over how much money you're tying into a position. Just my two cents.
If the draft plays out like you say, then trade back with Denver or Cleveland, get their 1st, 2nd and something else and then draft yourself Ingram in the 20's, get Polk at RB in round 2 and get a Lineman with the other round 2 pick. Not that I dislike Richardson but he could be huge to use for trade bait to get other teams to draft him.
I think the next 5 years with Rodgers, Brees, Brady and Cam lighting the league up and it becoming a "passing league" the top 15-20 picks is going to be a mixture of Franchise QB's, O-lineman, cant miss WR prospects like Megatron and AJ Green, Corners and pass rushers. We obviously are going in the opposite direction. We are going to built like Ravens, 49ers and so a lesser extent the Texans. Richardson is exactly the workhorse we need at RB, after getting him I think we should move Greene as he isn't a 3rd down guy because he is not effective catching the ball out of the backfield. McKnight has made huge strides since we drafted and him and I think he's ready to be our 3rd down guy, we could also bring back LT for some possessions. Potentially having 12 picks(Lowery trade and 4 compensatory) we could move up in the draft without much risk of losing picks. Round 2- Complete OLB- we got Maybin and Westerman for another year and we could definitely use an all around OLB who can come in and do a little bit of everything. Andre Branch would be just that for us. Stop the run, play in coverage and rush the passer. He wont be a Demarcus Ware type but he could be our version of Clay Matthews Then potentially trade into the 3rd(trade 4th and 6th) we can grab both Mohamed Sanu and Nate Potter. In the 5th we go Tramain Thomas FS out of Arkansas. Tanny is a genius and could work all this out but if Trent Richardson is there this our best case scenario at getting our big 5 needs filled RB- Richardson OLB- Branch WR- Sanu RT- Potter FS- Thomas Thats a rookie class I could live with
its possible I could strong combines for some of the lesser valued guys on our board and Sanue falling to the early 3rd round. Which is why I said trade back into the 3rd and potentially keeping ours. Like I said it would take Tanny being creative and cold blooded on that note....more sarcasm from Jets fans...thats the reason why our Franchise and Fan Base is a joke to everyone
So me picking a 1st round prospect in the 1st round A 2nd round prospect in the 2nd round a 3rd round prospect in the 3rd round a 5th round prospect in the 5th round and a 2nd round prospect who could slip out of the 2nd round into the 3rd and trading up to get him is a madden 12 off season dude get fucking real....I hate how everyone thinks they're fucking experts if you were you'd be working for ESPN
What do you think about the idea of us trading up from 16 to 11-12 if hes still on the board ? Again I realize that we have many gaping needs, but if this guy is anything even remotely close to the next AP it could instantly save Sanchez's career. Just food for thought but despite the Vikings having one of the 5 worst passing attacks in the entire nfl forcing them to be completely 1 dimensional, their overall offense finished 7 ranks ahead of ours all the while AP missed over a quarter of the season. So if this guy is gonna be anything even close to that, id be more than willing to give up a bit to get it. However if he ended up being the next Ryan Matthews, the entire draft would likely be a bust unless we got some late round home runs
I dont see the quickness or raw speed in Richardson as I do in AP, but Richardson has more pure power. AP is probably the most gifted runningback thats played this game in a while (sad that he tore his ACL and MCL while playing just to give his all for his team). Richardson has the speed and elusiveness to break long, dynamic, game-changing runs... Maybe comparing him to MJD (except with more power) is more accurate. Trading up 5 or so spots seems kind of pointless unless we are just worried about another team trading up for him ahead of us. If he makes it past Washington and Seattle resigns Lynch, I dont see anyone else drafting him. Jax- MJD + HUGE wholes at WR and DE Miami- Bush seemed promising and they already invested a reasonably high pick in thomas last year. Carolina- DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart Buffalo- C.J. Spiller coming on as of late (8th or 9th overall in 2011) and Fjax KC- Jamaal Charles (plenty of time to recover and they dont need to invest this high of a pick at RB) Seattle- Marshawn Beastmode Lynch Arizona- Beanie Wells and Ryan Williams Dallas- Demarco Murray and Felix Jones + wholes at CB Eagles- Shady McCoy Looking at this, if Richardson falls past Washington, he could free fall to 16 (unless someone trades up ahead of us).
I strongly anticipate cinci trading up for him. With Benson almost guaranteed to be gone, they have to protect Daltons future, and considering the bounty they got for Palmer I think they have no issue giving up a 3rd or even a 2nd to move up to keep them competitive in the nfls toughest division
Well, he is one of the more knowledgable ones around here and I agree with him, calling Sanu a second rounder that could fall to the third is a bad joke at best. He's seen as a late first, early second round type guy. Chances of him fallign into the mid third are way low as of right now. The combine and interviews could change things up. So in that respect, yea this is madden like. Read a tiny little bit about these guys before throwing things out there and you won't get this type of reaction. Your reaction to his criticism is very, very childish. Grow up and learn to get shot down everyonce in awhile. If you don't know much and throw out bad senarios expect to get called on it.
He's better than any option in Miami as an every down back. Charles has a thin frame and not seen as a work horse Those two teams could very easily be interested in him IMO.
so anything outside of the norm is madden-like.....thats bullshit plenty of guys fall we'll see come draft day...I think he gets picked late 2nd to be honest, possibly early 3rd crazier things have happened
That just won't happen, Sanu is a Top 5 wideout in a WR STRONG draft. If this was last year he would be a lock first rounder. I suggest you go watch some tape on Sanu, the guy is a stud and besides playing at Rutgers , he has no negative aspects in his game.
Miami seems to think Thomas and Bush will be the best tandem theyve had since Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown. They could very well pick Richardson but they have huge holes on that team. They need a RT , they need some DLine, they need a QB, and they need a safety more than they do a RB. I just think in the end, on a rebuilding team, they need starters, not luxury picks. As for the Chiefs, they will get a RB in this draft, but not in the first. They need a short yardage back to replace TJ. Charles can be a workhorse and I think they give him another full year to see if he can become what he once was, which I think he'll have the ability too.
