The excuses run deep here. So Mark is good because everyone else sucked and he doesn't have any help. Now please tell me whats good about Mark again?
Last time I checked we have a pretty good defense here as well, and when the giants won the superbowl in 07 Eli played FAR from elite, in case you didn't know Eli had 23 TD's 20 Ints 7 lost fumbles 56.1% completion when he was Superbowl MVP.
Rex Grossman made a fricken superbowl. Eli manning won one, Matt Hasselback made one Jake Dellhome made one Brad Johnson, rich gannon, steve mcnair, Kerry Collins These guys are all great QBs amright ? Sure they all lost them, but how many of them are great QBs ?
If we get a fractionally decent #2 wr next year, and our Oline is at least average then there are absolutely no excuses from me for sanchez next year. Fact is this year our WR corp blew testicles hardcore, and our OL was shit.
You're missing the playoffs. If Mark played slightly less than ass in one of the last three games, Jets might still be going. This was a season when people fell out of bed and set passing records. He really wasn't at all impressive. No reason to give up on him yet, but lets not kid ourselves, either.
Sanchez was the problem in the eagles game? Srsly? Sanchez gave up a 99 yard td vs the Cmen ? Sanchez decided to pass the ball 64 times against a team known primarily for its pass rush and below average rush defense ? Sanchez played poorly this season no doubt, but to blame those last 3 games on Sanchez of all people, and youre out of your mind. You wanna put the Fins on him, fine thats at least somewhat open to consideration. But we win that game wed still not be in the playoffs, except our draft pick would be worse and wed probably still have Schitty.
What Qb's became great though because they won the Super Bowl? Brady, Eli, Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers, Brad Johnson were never considered great until they won the Super Bowl. Brady threw for 1 td and 1 int in his first playoff run and then missed the playoffs the next year. Eli had his defense shut down one of the greatest offenses ever and had one of the luckiest catches ever seen. Big Ben was only a 6 seed that got hot and played a Bengals team that lost Palmer quickly and a colts team that was one fg away from going to overtime. He and the refs then beat the seahawks. Aaron Rodgers was looked at as a good QB and they snuck in as a 6 seed and went on to win the super bowl. Looking back we can say great QB's won super bowls, but looking at in the time it happened, none of these Qbs were great
I'm inclined to think if the Jets miss the playoffs next year, and Sanchez plays "average", fans will think it's not enough and time to move on.
Agreed. Most of the Pro Sanchez viewers wanted a new OC, a solid line, and another year. We got the new OC, time to build up the rest of the team. The few SAnchez haters exaggerate saying how everyone on here wants to keep him for 10 years and the few Sanchez lovers say how he is better than Stafford/Ryan etc. I think the majority of the board falls inbetween there and understands it takes time to see QB's develop and if we made to Championships games before with him, we can do it again.
The defense had it's issues too but Sanchez wack decision making (running into the end zone for the safety etc) didn't help either. If you watched the game the jets were in 2nd/3rd and long situations so they had no choice but to throw. 50+ pass attempts look bad on paper until you look at it within context.
the way its going though with an ever more pass happy league and rules you need to be really outstanding to get by with a below average QB (and we are not really outstanding in any department at the moment (outside of one CB)).
Exactly - look it wasn't the best season obviously but its time to reflect with 20/20 vision - just one play could have made a massive difference that being the Tebow TD run in the dying seconds when he should have been ground into the turf in week 11.
The Jets had 36 1st down plays against the Giants. Schotty called passes on 24 of those 36 plays. He called passes on 12 of the first 18 1st down plays. He was consistent the whole game. His game plan was to have Sanchez throw a LOT of passes against that pass rush with the 19th ranked run defense across the line from him. Like many things this decision will be clouded in the veils of a mystery hidden in a deep dark crevice in Schotty's soul.