If this is true... (Some Jets Players Resent Sanchez)

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  1. CBG

    CBG Well-Known Member

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    I posted on another thread that I still believe in Sanchez----that said Sanchez sulked when Brunnell was given a few reps---how on earth will this kid play should serious competion be brough in ? I hope he rises to the occaision :beer:
     
  2. displacedfan

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    Terrel Suggs was right when he said Sanchez is soft and gives up when pressured. He is the softest and weakest QB in football. Sackchez almost never stays in the pocket and takes a hit. He would rather crumple into a ball and take a sack rather than take a hit throwing the ball away or to a receiver. Almost every sack he took this year was self inflicted because he panicked, shuffled his feet and did nothing while being pressured or panicked and ran into the rush. Wrong, he was given less time than usual and defenses abused the whole o line. Unknown guys were winning defensive player of the week awards on us. To not even acknowledge the o line played poorly is showing your lack of football knowledge.

    He is a fine flag football QB and does well when his receivers are wide open and when he is not rushed. Hence why sackchez does well on play action and in the 2 minute drill. But if his primary receiver is covered he simply gives up and panics. He is not a tackle football QB and he cannot play in the NFL. The Jets have had to constantly simplify the gameplan for him. They run 5WR sets all the time to simplify his reads because if he is confused pre snap he panics and makes mistakes. They run 1-3 step drops because he cannot be trusted in the pocket. The entire offense was based on around protecting the team from Sanchez making a mistake. Wrong again. Rattled might be a better word, soft is incorrect. Kid makes comebakcs and takes hit that wold knock other QBs out. If the primary receiver is covered he usually has pressure in his face. The running of 5 wr doesn't simply reads. It creates more. Running more playaction would really benefit him. The entire offense as built around we will create good field position from our O and ST and score from there.It was built around being efficient in the RZ which led to it faltering between the 20s. Every drive had to be perfect, we never had a big play threat in the run or pass.

    This idea that he played well in the playoffs is such a farce. The Colts game last year he was beyond awful. He missed at least 3 wide open receivers for TDS. He was so bad in the first half the CS had to take the ball out of his hands in the 2nd half and abandon the pass. The Pats game he was statistically good but was still off the mark throwing high on almost every pass. He was bailed out by 3 fantastic plays by the receivers on all three TDs and a number of amazing catches by Edwards and Holmes on high poorly thrown balls. Wrong again. Sanchez made a picture perfect throw to Tone in NE. Hit Braylon perfectly and Braylon got YAC. Guess what, every QB receives that. You think every QB throws the ball straight into the EZ? The LT pass was slightly behind but he had to get it there quick so LT could score. He only played poorly in the 1st quarter of NE. He became real good once he backpedaled to his left, point to Braylon, and threw a strike to him. Remeber this was the game where Braylon broke up a long pass to Tone (play design problem) The colts couldnt stop the run the second time around, why change what isn't broken? San Diego he bought extra time and Dustin for the huge TD. Cincy is the only game where he didn't do much. In the games we lost he kept us in the games and injuries/defense let us down.

    Sanchez is terrible his numbers are inflated because he has been protected and is only allowed to throw in favorable situations where defenses are expecting the run. He had a large number of passing TDs because of good playing calling using play action at the goal line to hit wide open receivers. The Jets play calling this year gave him a ton of easy 5 yard or less TDs, If he had to play in situations like a normal QB playing from behind and being forced to pass the ball in actual passing situations he would not still be in the league. If he had to play against defenses that were defending against the pass rather than selling out on the run he would even worse than he is now. He is mentally weak, soft and unable to read defenses or make decisions. The game is simply to fast for him. He might be a nice guy but he should not be in the NFL. I can think of multiple throws outside 5 yards. Does Brady get stats taken away because he throws 10 yards to GRonkowski and just really high in the EZ so nobody can touch it? You could say his rush stats where inflated, but we called draw plays and only failed once in OAK by half a yard doing it. He played behind multiple times and since he entered the league, he leads it in 4th quarter/ot comebakcs including Was and Buf.
     
  3. Braylon4ever

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    THAT'S ALL, FOLKS! :cool:


    It's definitely Holmes, Plax and probably Cro/Scott.
     
  4. Rex's Sweater Vest

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    This season is ending like the film, Casino, heads are going to roll. Let's just hope Rex doesn't end up buried alive in some ditch in the middle of a cornfield like Joe Pesci to the tune of House of the Rising Sun.
     
  5. SeattleJet

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    Derrick Mason: Sanchez works extremely hard.

    "Derrick Mason played just five games with the Jets, but he's certainly comfortable speaking candidly about the demise of the team that labeled him a malcontent and shoved him out the door.
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    The wide receiver pointed out Monday that the Jets' continued dysfunction after his Oct. 11 trade to the Texans served as proof he wasn't the locker-room cancer as portrayed.

    On Wednesday, he told Fox Sports Radio that pointed criticism leveled at Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez in a New York Daily News report didn't jibe with the Sanchez he played with for two-plus months.

    "Mark, I've never seen the lack of work ethic, ever," said Mason, who earlier in the week revealed plans to retire after 15 NFL seasons. "Because he worked extremely hard on the practice field, he studied his butt off. He's a guy that wanted to get better each and every game. I just think he was inconsistent throughout the whole season last year."

    One of the critiques leveled at Sanchez in the Daily News report was an inability to process weekly game plans. Mason believes Sanchez wasn't always comfortable with the attack put in place by now-departed offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer.

    "Some weeks, as we'd all seen, he would play great," Mason said. "Then he'd have two games in a row where he's playing as if he's never grasped the offense or really knows how to play that position."

    Jets center Nick Mangold came to his quarterback's defense Wednesday, tweeting that the Daily News report is "false and adding: "If 'unnamed sources' want to attack Mark, man up and put your name to it." But it might behoove Sanchez to emerge at some point to defend himself from all this sniping."
     
  6. Braylon4ever

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    So wait a sec here!! Wasn't Mason of those who was also throwing Sanchez under the bus? Now he does a complete 180?


    Maybe I'm wrong here but....damn. I'm confused.
     
  7. JetsUK

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    why the sarcasm?

    when have you ever seen an article that labelled sanchez as being lazy before this single one liner from an anonymous source?

    sanchez is lots of things but i dont believe that lazy is one of them - all you ever used to read about was how hard he works and studies - as someone else posted earlier - it would be better if he was lazy then you could think "buck your ideas up and you could be something" the sad thing is i think he tries as hard as he can, he just doesnt have the ability.

    edit: in fact look just above this post at the quote from Mason - someone that has no reason at all to speak highly of the jets or anyone on the team: ""Mark, I've never seen the lack of work ethic, ever," said Mason, who earlier in the week revealed plans to retire after 15 NFL seasons. "Because he worked extremely hard on the practice field, he studied his butt off. He's a guy that wanted to get better each and every game. I just think he was inconsistent throughout the whole season last year.""
     
  8. ouchy

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    If he isn't lazy - why cant he read defenses after 54 starts? If thats not lazy then its STUPID. So - we have stupid or lazy to choose from.

    Anyone who cant tell he acts entitled is blind. In fact, its hard to even tell that he cares about winning. And if he cant handle criticism then he needs to join track and field or something.
     
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    And that brings me to this question. If it is true some players dislike Sanchez could it be some oline members allowed Sanchez to get hammerd?

    Wayne Hunters failed blocking almost looked intentional. His one second block effort and then he moved away.
     
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    Hunter came out and back Sanchez and called the unnamed sources cowards.
     
  11. RexLuvzSnax

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    i think all this off season shit talking will actually light a fire underneath marks ass. if he really is slacking off and not working as hard as he should this should be the wake up call he needs.
     
  12. JetsUK

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    i think he really did just play that badly. these guys get paid way too much money to want to look like shit and get cut just for the satisfaction of seeing someone else take a hit (I would have thought)
     
  13. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    Who are these "many"great players? What makes any fan think the Jets are close enough that Manning will put us over the top? What makes any fan think they'd be capable of getting Manning while still maintaining a good enough team to compete? What makes any fan think Manning would even want to come here given the current state of the team, which is total disarray?

    Are you people serious?
     
  14. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    There's absolutely zero chance of that. Smoke some more crack.
     
  15. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, a whole 2 years, soooooo much older. He was also in the midst of a two decade game playing streak and Manning is coming off of three neck surgeries.

    Nice comparison.
     
  16. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    Not for a QB it isn't. Go check your NFL history books, tell me how many QBs in the entire history of the league were already awesome and fully mature at 25.

    Its ok, I'll wait.
     
  17. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.
     
  18. GRNYT

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    u forgot to mention the blow...stabler fairly big user back when
     
  19. GRNYT

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    ur an idiot and u can't spell either
     
  20. GRNYT

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    ur coach is a loudmouth buffoon and u have more than a few thugs

    good for sanchez he doesn't "fit" on that team
     

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