I've really thought hard about what the Jets as a franchise and what we would have to do to get back to winning, but its hard for me to not believe that we're pretty much screwed for the a while here. Signing Holmes to a long term deal was a disaster. We're now stuck with a guy who quit on us for the majority of the year. Whats worse is he's our "captain". You couldn't write this stuff about how bad our locker room chemistry is right now. Sanchez will have to go through a whole different system next year. Believe me, I hate Schitty, but now we have to rip up the offense and start over again. I wonder if Tanny (and the fans) will have enough patience to see Sanchez struggle another year. Shonn Greene is not the answer at HB for the full time role at least. He is better when he basically has half the season to get into football tempo to shine. We certainly need another back. By the time all of this turnaround happens, our franchise players such as Harris and Revis will be getting past their prime and no longer the same core guys that couldve won us the big one. I hope I'm wrong here...
Championship teams take years to build. Also you have to consider that our core players are young and have another 4-5 years in them.
I still think we have enough pieces to make that run. Upgrades need to be made, but we are far from being in the same boat as the lower tier teams in this league. Give it time, I know this season sucked, but it will get better. Rex will fix this. Keep the faith.
we never had a realistic shot at the Super Bowl with this squad. teams that win 9, 11 and 8 games over a three year period aren't legitimate Suer Bowl contenders. we were a team capable of pulling off an upset or two in the playoffs, but were far from the best team in the league any of those three years.
Exactly. They have maybe four guys who are championship-caliber starters...Revis, Mangold, Harris and Ferguson. And only Revis is a no-doubt blue-chipper. That's simply not nearly enough to power a true title contender. They're a middle of the pack team in terms of talent, so they're no further or closer to a title than a lot of teams in the league. To win a title, they'll need their front office and coaching staff to perform extremely well over the next four or five years and build a championship-caliber talent base.
Holmes is far from the problem on this team. I'm not excusing his behavior at certain points this season either. But Holmes is a weapon that can be useful for us for years to come.
Look. Say what you will about the Patriots - and their recent post-season futility, if that makes you feel any better. The deal is, it does not matter how the personnel rolls. The team will win 11+ games any season (or 13+ if Brady is not taken out.) That is consistency. Jets? Yeah. They are consistent too. They are consistently mediocre. It is true that Tannenbaum dropped the ball on a lot of personnel decisions of late, but if your squad has a number of "best-in-the-league" players (like Mangold or Revis - not so far off is Harris) then posting up 8-9-11 wins on a regular basis is not how you should be performing. That is a playoff-contender kind of calibre, not a Super-bowl contender potential. As for the Patriots, it remains to be seen whether they can solve their DE issues - Wilfork has been their lone soldier up front for some time, and their LB plays took massive hit because of that fact. Once they shore up on their both DEs, expect Patriots to win the SB again. They are not that far off as a matter of fact. *They are much closer to the SB than the Jets are, painful as it is to admit.* Tannenbaum has a lot to answer for this off-season, especially his criminal negligence toward the team depth.
They were poorly coached in 2008 and won 9 games. They won 9 games in 2009 and blew multiple games late (Bills, Falcons, Dolphins, Jaguars). I believe the 2009 team was or should have been a true Super Bowl contender. Sadly, the QB position was the biggest hole in 2009. Two years later and the team is now mediocre and the QB position is still a problem.
somewhat revisionist history to say they were poorly coached in 2008 they were arguably the best team in the afc if not the league before the qb got hurt. they stomped 10-0 Tennessee on the road and won a big game against new england prior to qb getting hurt
well IMO the window of opp has just closed on this 2-3 year period. but that doesn't mean we turn into the rams and fall off the earth. the current 8-8 product exposed many many things on and off the field. this team will only improve once those in charge finally decide which identity will be staked here. if we are a defensive team then build a defense. if we are an offensive team than build an offense. u just cant pussyfoot around on both sides of the ball. we have seen MS for 3 years and it should be evident that this guy is NOT going to carry the team, rather the team will carry him. thats just fact. even the unskilled eyes of the fan can see even the most basic nfl throws are not consistent enough for high level success. but thats not too roast MS - its the toughest position on the field. the only thing u can roast is the #5 pick not being talented enough to carry his team. but how evident was that after 12 college starts? so until they fully commit to a #1 defense and a middle of the road offense (as we have seen sort of in 09/10) or a #1 ball control RB/TE oriented offense and a middle of the road defense nothing will get much better than the proverbial 7-9 to 9-7 purgatory.
The problem isn't that we unloaded Leon, the problem is we drafted Gholston and Ducasse and rented Holmes and Braylon for future talent and didn't win.
I really thought 2010 was the year the team was awesome, defense was still great, running game working, great receivers plus a quick dude that won a couple of games in the last seconds
That goes both ways. In 2010, they won multiple games late, against not-so-great teams. They got the wins, but those were signs that they weren't necessarily as good as their record (and their record in 2010 wasn't even elite). It's great that they played well in the playoffs...the coaches and players deserve credit for that. But getting hot "at the right time" doesn't confer elite status, and it's kindof irrelevant when you can't even get to the post-season. I don't think this team was ever elite or a true Super Bowl champion caliber collection of talent. We were fooled to some extent.
AlbanyJets, Yes, you can say they pulled out some games late in 2010. Maybe they were really an 8-8, 9-7 team that got lucky. Their point differential after 16 games did not scream "elite team." I thought the 2009 team was better. Just wish there was better QB play. The Jets could have beaten the Saints in the Super Bowl too. Remember they actually played fairly well against New Orleans that year but Sanchez wrecked the game.
AlbanyJets, Yes, you can say they pulled out some games late in 2010. Maybe they were really an 8-8, 9-7 team that got lucky. Their point differential after 16 games did not scream "elite team." I thought the 2009 team was better. Just wish there was better QB play. The Jets could have beaten the Saints in the Super Bowl too. Remember they actually played fairly well against New Orleans that year but Sanchez wrecked the game.
the afc is in a down year but even if everything went right this year and the jets were to get in the playoffs and reach the super bowl, they wouldn't beat the packers or the saints. if/when they get to the super bowl i want them to win the entire thing, im not trying to settle for buying some afc champions shirt. they weren't winning in 2009 even with a decent qb, that saints team was on a mission. and with favre retiring outside of trading for jay cutler, there was no decent qb available. 2010 was their chance, they held the packers to 9 points in the halloween game but the offense shit the bed. with 2 weeks to prepare for them i think it could've been a different outcome, but things didn't go as planned.
