Superbowl defense??

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  1. Barry the Baptist

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    Drew Coleman was an inch away from making a huge play that may hav really factored into the outcome of that game.
     
  2. JetsKickAss

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    The Jets missed 10-11 tackles in the 1st half of that Pitt game.
     
  3. Barry the Baptist

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    Rashard Mendenhall looked like Jerome Bettis in his younger years in that 1st half. And I agree with JWWS that the "fumble" by Sanchez was an absolute bullshit call. It was a terrible play call but the call on the field as a fumble was downright awful. I still think that doesn't happen we win the game.
     
  4. SienaSaints

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    That was what I meant. Sorry the reason they didnt make the superbowl last year was because of the defense.
     
  5. The_Darksider

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    How can you say this? The defense had a 17-6 lead and was dominating, but then fell apart. Where do you see a reason to pin this on Sanchez?
     
  6. The_Darksider

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    It's a valid point to a degree because the offense gets off to really slow starts and often doesn't come alive until the second half.

    However the offense isn't to blame for poor tackling, a lack of a pass rush, and startling breakdowns on 3rd and long on many important drives by the opponent.

    The defense is ok, good at times, hardly ever great, and DEFINITELY NOT championship material.
     
  7. SienaSaints

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    I did not say it was Sanchez' fault just saying that with a better quarterback that team could have been legendary good. Instead they were 9-7 and had to fight just to get to the AFCG. I am one of the biggest Sanchez supporters and think he will end up being a good one.
     
  8. The_Darksider

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    Huh? You think a team on the cusp of the Super Bowl gets its motivation based on who won the early game?
     
  9. Pereiro16

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    lol. Yea our defense if the reason we lost that Denver game... right.

    Our defense is the reason we lost to Baltimore too.. right? And the Giants.. right?
     
  10. Pereiro16

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    actually it was more because Shonn Greene went down leading to an inept offense and the Colts controlling the ball more.
     
  11. Will-I-Am-Not

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    Our defense just needs to be fine tuned, our offense, on the other hand, needs to be completely overhauled.
     
  12. Zach

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    WHO?????? Name one. I didn't see any if you ask me.

    If you looked at my previous postings, you should soon find how vocal I was about the piss-poor play from the front 7, not just during the post season, but from regular season in general. You should also have found how critical I was about the defense whenever I saw the gigantic clusterfuck they call blitz.
     
  13. Zach

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    Tell ya what. I counted this - you can try if you want too.

    The defense gave up 344 points - all right. But the offense gave up more than 50 points there with lost fumbles and pick 6's. Scores off the turnovers are part of the game for sure, but if it is the offense giving up the score instead of getting one, there goes your ENTIRE argument. The defense wasn't nearly as good as it was years past, but it still remains that the offense, even with much improved red-zone efficiency, is still the Achilles's heel of this team.
     
  14. The_Darksider

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    I don't know man, the offense put up 17 first half points and then went to sleep, yes. But it wasn't the offense that changed the momentum by allowing the Colts march down the field and score right before the half, and it wasn't the offense that allowed 17 2nd half points. You want to say the defense was good, ok. But a great defense takes that 11 point lead and bails the offense it, or at the very least keeps it in the game. Once that td made it 17-13, it was over.
     
  15. truthbtold

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    you can't score 17 points against that Colt team and expect to win. IMO the game was lost after we recovered that fumble on the Colts 25 with 3:30 left in the half and failed to score a TD. That was our chance to put out foot on their throat, and the offense didnt get it done. If we score and take a 21-6 lead into the locker room, with the ball to start the 2nd half, we probably win that game.

    As it turned out, not only couldnt we score, we couldnt even run the clock down.
    MISERABLE offensive series ... 3 plays in about 1:30 ... no first downs ... FG.
    Colts come down and make it 17-13 before the half.
    Goodbye momentum ... see you next season.
     
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  16. LuvThosePats

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    I saw the reply of the Giants game on NFL Network last night. Altho they condense the game a lot -- cutting at least 20 mins out -- I thought your defense looked horrid, giving up several big plays and whiffing on tackles all over the place. Yeah, your offense isn't anything to write home about and there were some big miscues, but to me the defense looked like the culprit on this one.
     
  17. fozzi58

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    I do believe both of these issues occurred when Strickland went down with an injury in the mid 2nd qtr. There's a good possibility we could have won had Strickland been on the field.

    I'm sure the SG injury was a factor from an offensive standpoint but 1 missed FG does not beat the Colts.
     
  18. Joe Willie White Shoes

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    Try reading the post I was responding to. The argument made by that poster was that the defense struggled because it was tired from being on the field so much. That is false. The Jets TOP was among the top 10 in the NFL. So my argument has nothing to do with your post about points off turnovers. The defense simply was not ineffective because of the time it was on the field.
     
  19. 3rdAnd15Draw

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    Amazingly, you're even dumber than your name would indicate.
     

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