Perspective, for whatever it's worth...

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by onefanjet, Nov 30, 2011.

  1. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    But they already have Gabbert up the plate. What do you think they will do with that kid then?
     
  2. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    Do U know that the NYJ games are broadcast live in LA just like they are in NY? Know why Sanchez is a Mexican & in the LA area there is a very HUGE really HUGE Mexican population I doubt a guy with the last name of Gabbert will quite do it do U when you are attempting to put Mexican fannies in the seats :smile:
     
  3. Jetaho

    Jetaho Well-Known Member

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    Not that I think it's a good idea, but would you trade Sanchez for Gabbert straight up?
     
  4. #28Martin

    #28Martin Well-Known Member

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    Nope ...................
     
  5. NY Jets68

    NY Jets68 Well-Known Member

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    I thought Sanchez was American, funny that.
     
  6. Jtuds

    Jtuds Active Member

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    I read this and my opinion is that you're an apologist for Sanchez.

    How much time is reasonable until you pull the plug? He's started nearly 50 NFL games now, right? It's getting there anyway. That's far more than most NFL QBs get in a career. He is still very much the same player he was in his first season.

    As for mini camps and OTAs, the new CBA has limited those workouts, so he will not have the opportunity to get that extra time unless the players arrange it themselves.

    The offensive line has been an issue more thsi year than in the last 2 seasons, but there are QBs performing better than Sanchez with worse protection. And Mark made the same mistakes in the past with better protection.

    As for chemistry, you can't say he throws the ball behind the receiver or floats it over his head because of a lack of chemistry. He knows his players aren't 8 feet tall and he knows they don't have 10 foot long arms. The plays are the plays and he lacks execution. The guy misses big play opportunities all the time...that's on him.

    His technique issues are his problem, not the line's. He has no composure in the pocket. And whether or not he makes bad decisions sometimes or all the time, he makes more bad decisions that the QB he plays against in many games, and that kills the team.

    Looking realisticalyl at the next 2 seasons, have you seen enough in the previous two to give the guya contract extension and lock it in long term? I don't think there's any way in hell the team can do that. Next season, he's playing for his career as far as I'm concerned, because I can't see which other team would make him their starter if the Jets don't keep him, and the Jets won't keep him unless he steps it up and shows he can quarterback his team, not just play for it.
     
  7. Jetaho

    Jetaho Well-Known Member

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    So what's your plan with Sanchez? Cut him and sign Manning? Trade him for . . . what? You troll every thread to remind us how bad he sucks, but you offer nothing about how this team can move forward at the QB position.
     
  8. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    OK Mexican American if that makes U happier :smile:
     
  9. jack handy

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    The frustration comes from unrealistic expectations.

    Going with the QBs that will be on rosters at the start of the season -- so qbs like cutler and manning are part of the conversation. Sanchez is a top 20 qb and I do not expect him to become anything more. It would be nice but not realistic.

    Does anyone ever see him becoming a top 10 QB? Top 5? It will be an interesting decison when it comes time to extend his contract and how his worth is thought of around the league. As much as fans like to see the next guy play (since he has to be better) my recommendation would be to keep him at middle of the road QB pay and get back to becoming a top 5 D.
     
  10. fozzi58

    fozzi58 Well-Known Member

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    How fast does it take a QB to develop in the NFL? 6 games? 10 games? 32 games? In PMannings 4th season, Chad Pennington made Manning look pedestrian in the PO's. So Manning gets 5 years and Mark gets 2+?

    Eli? Fitzpatrick? Moore? Brees? Rodgers?

    How come we are "My QB needs to be top 5 by year 3" or he gets the axe? When the Jets release Sanchez and he starts killing us when he goes and plays for the Phins or another AFC team, what will you attribute that too?

    Matt Moore is looking pretty good in his 5th year.
    Fitzy started to show signs in year 6.
    Eli was about to be run out of NY until Year 5.

    I'm not being a Sanchize apologist cause I don't agree he is playing well either, but when you don't have patience to let these guys develop and you stick with the "done for me lately" mindset, you will never give your QB a chance to develop and will forever be searching for a top 10 QB.

    Unless of course you are looking to time a 2-14 season with a really great QB draft. Oh and Akili Smith and Ryan Leaf say hi.
     
  11. wewantsapp

    wewantsapp Well-Known Member

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    I think we need you to post more often.

    But that being said, its been 20 years since we've had a QB with a Pro Bowl season performance (Ken O'Brien -- who deserved more credit that what he got). We've been so hungry for any decent consistent play from the QB position that we've become very intolerant & impatient. The likes of Pennington, Nagle, O'Donnell, Lucas, Mirer, Clemens, Foley, Reich, Esiason, Brister & Trudeau understandably created a tendancy among JETS fans to lean in ready to pull a quick trigger. But from a completely unemotional & economic standpoint, we'll have to live and die by Sanchez over the next 2/3 seasons. We will focus on building the team that surrounds him so as to avoid relying on him to win us games, -- I am just leery of the concept of "supplying him weapons" under the assumption it will help him improve. If no one works harder than he does during the offseason as he says, then he's clearly working on the wrong things. Accuracy is 1 of the few things you can actually improve/correct during the offseason --- and his is WAY OFF.
     
  12. #28Martin

    #28Martin Well-Known Member

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    Esiason was a Pro Bowler his first Jet season and it was deserved. Favre making the Pro Bowl was a popularity contest, but his season was ok. Pennington the year he led the league in passing was deserving.
     
  13. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    Sanchez was thrown in the fire and was asked to lead a team to a super bowl. So you cant have it both ways, you cant expect fans to be patient if we're told the team is in win now mode. There is no room for patience in that sense. If the jets were a rebuilding/content with making the playoffs and losing in the wild card round team, then the perception would be different.

    I will give Sanchez credit for winning us games in tough spots the past two and half years and being a big part of the Jets making two AFC championship games.
     
  14. wewantsapp

    wewantsapp Well-Known Member

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    Again,.....you don't really read posts.
    It references consistency.

    But to address your post after reading it --- OK, I'll give you the 1 YEAR Esiason thing.
    You mention Favre,.....the 1 YEAR and then you correctly graded his season as OK which it was.
    Pennington only lead the league in the most arguable QB stat there is --- rating.
    His name was never placed in the elite group by anyone.
     

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