After several years of watching this offense sometimes look good, sometimes look bad, sometimes sucking whale dick, I keep thinking back to the "old days" of Paul Hackett. While the hatred (and love) for Brian Schottenheimer has reached epic proportions, I'm wondering if Schotty will eclipse the most hated OC in all of Jets history. Paul (Fucken) Hackett. To the group I ask this: Who was worse? This might be a question for the older members who remember those days gone by when flanker screens and 3 & 24 draw plays were the bread and butter of the Jet offense. To you younger members who might not remember him, try to get your hands on some old footage of the Jets during the Herm Edwards era if you really want to see what an unimaginative offense looks like..
Paul fucking Hackett was a nightmare & I'm curious how many fans forced to endure his ineptitude will choose him over anybody. Sometimes I wonder if it's the Hackett trauma which gives me so much patience w/ Schotty.
maybe i am a prisoner of the moment but i can't remember getting as pissed at hackett as i do at schittty
one of my fonder memories of hackett came during the 01 season i believe, i was pretty young and i forget who we were playing but i remember the jets were driving down late in the game needing to score. there were around 13 or so seconds left in the game and we were pretty close to the endzone with no time outs left. hackett gambled that the team would be able to run 2 plays COHERENTLY within that time frame. we lost the game. i don't really care as to who was worse of the two. i just don't want schotty here anymore.
Hackett seemed unable to work with Testaverde as his QB. When Pennington was healthy, Hackett ran a pretty effective offense. When Testaverde was in it all became a mess. Obviously the two players had vastly different skill sets, but I always felt that Hackett would be viewed more kindly if Pennington hadn't been made out of cardboard. The offense after Chad came in in 2002 and at the beginning of 2004 was extremely potent. Other than that, Chad was either injured or coming back from injury, which complicated matters and inevitably caused him to decline. Hackett seemed fundamentally opposed to the sort of passing game Vinny was built for and I thought that was a big mark against him. You've got to tailor your offense to the players you have, not the other way around. For that reason, I would say Hackett was my preference. I don't think Schotty has built a formidable offense with ANYONE.
I'm confused. Why would someone vote for choice 4? That would mean you're voting for Hackett as worse than Schottenheimer, but also saying it wasn't Hackett's fault.
Was trying to leave an option for those that could choose Hackett but still give him the benefit of the doubt IF he had better talent.
Was trying to leave an option for those that could choose Hackett but still give him the benefit of the doubt IF he had better talent. Kinda like a "it wasn't his fault he was worse than Schotty."
I don't like Shotty's play calling. But I don't think it's not his fault. The OL is not playing well. Sanchez is not the answer. Sanchez's arch on the ball allows CB to close on our WRs. Sanchez needs competition. We need a better RB. address those issues then evaluation of Shotty. IMO, we can do a better job in drafting quality players.
Hackett's play calling was extremely frustrating, but his offensive scheme and play design was far better than Schitty's. So they both suck at play-calling, but Hackett's system was better and put players in position to succeed more than Schitty's.
These two offensive coordinators are about as bad as this play right here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ogI_K-JmCc
So you are asking me to differentiate between 3rd and 15 draw and 3rd and 8 with 5 receivers on 4 yard curl route? What's the point?
This is not even close. Hackett was BORING. Schottenheimer is inept. 2002. There is no counter argument. Hackett's system, with Sanchez, as opposed to ole Noodle arm, would look like the 2002 playoff run, for 16 games.
What Hackett didn't do was put a tight end in motion every third play. Opposing d's stopped responding to that about 4 seasons ago. I think Hackett's scheme's were less complicated but he did make the occasional in game adjustment. He varied the down and distance when he dialled up the draw. Seriously this is a tough call to make. Maybe the talent we have just now could have made Hackett's scheme work.Can I tick options 1 and 3 please?
I've never been a Jet fan when the o-coordinator didn't suck. every team hates their o-coordinator unless you have an elite QB so IDK what to think.
But then on a second thought, Hackett's offense WAS functional for a season or two with the Jets. Schottenheimer's system was NEVER functional. There goes the jury.
