Position Grades - Bye Week

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  1. Cynic

    Cynic New Member

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    If the Jets had Maybin at all positions on the defensive line we'd be a much better team.
     
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  2. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    About the TE's and RB's. Something should be said about their pass blocking. Which I don't think has been very good.
     
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  4. zllehs

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    QB- B -Oline hasnt been the best this year but still he has thrown alot of off target passes and missed wide open recivers. That being said I'm ecstatic to see his TDs and completion % up this high and his interceptions so low

    RB- C- -As of 3 weeks ago they were giving us nothing. Esspecially Greene. Only reason this isnt a D is because Greene has shown signs of having a pulse these last 2 wins

    WR/TE- B- -Sanchez not being protected is a big reason for their lack of production but they drop too many passes. Their production over the last 2 weeks is the only reason this isnt a C

    OL- B- -Mangold is the key apparently because they are abysmal with out him but everyone not named Moore Ferguson and Mangold need to step it up

    DL- D - SOS no pass rush and this year they cant even seem to help out in the running game AMAZINGLY enoguh ARON MAYBIN is the only reason this isnt an F

    LB- C+ -With the Dline giving them little to no help the LBs get too much put on their shoulders. that being said they havent made enough big plays this year and our horrific run defense falls on their shoulders too

    CB- A -Highest grade because #24 has LITERALLY won us 2 games with year. Kyle wilson looks much improved. If Brandon Marshall could catch in the endzone and not run out of bounds after being wide open and having a sure TD this grade would be lower

    S- C+ -Fuck Eric Smith

    ST- A- -Joe Mcknight anyone?
     
  5. JetRizing89

    JetRizing89 Well-Known Member

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    recievers get a C- from me

    burress has played awful all yr and while the san diego game was nice, im not gonna discount the other 6 games

    holmes hasnt played well either really
     
  6. Going4TheGreen

    Going4TheGreen Well-Known Member

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    Maybin is a linebacker, DL does not provide pass rush in a 3-4, and we are 3rd in the league in sacks.
     
  7. JETS1116

    JETS1116 Well-Known Member

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    please don't post anymore.
    1. maybin is an olb, not a d-lineman.
    2. 3-4 lineman shouldn't be judged on their ability to create pressure. once and a while there comes a beast that can do it, aka kris jenkins when healthy and haloti ngata, but they eat up blocks and clog the running holes. I've seen a few of your posts and I no longer will read shit of yours.
     
  8. zllehs

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    Listed as a LB but more of a LB/DE hybrid especially how rex is using him
    he isnt dropping back in coverage as much as the rest of the LB's are

    3rd in the league in sacks YES
    but only 3 sacks from our DL is ridiculous
    far too often we drop back in coverage and only send 3 or 4 rushers and far too often the QB has forever to throw



    See above for maybin

    If you read my analysis i also criticized the DL for their inability to help in the running game
    And you must be able to generate a pass rush with out sending a blitz no matter what Defense you run

    I'm not asking for much... just be able to beat you man 1 on 1 and not get stone walled every time

    its hard to watch

    Spare me the insults, advice and holier than thou attitude. I can do without it.
     
  9. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    No. Just no. Not even a little. Not even at all. Aaron Maybin is too small to be a LB and you think Rex is using him like a DE. No. If anything he is being used like a blitzing defensive back. No.
     
  10. zllehs

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    too small to be a LB?

    Scott, Bart LB 6-2 242
    Maybin, Aaron LB 6-4 240
     
  11. milcus

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    QB, C+: Sanchez is having a weird year. The TD's are up, and he should get 20. But, he has not been very good. The completion percentage is still at 55%. He still makes bad decisions, and turns the ball over way too much (and when it does, it usually seems to be for 6 points). He has to get better.

    TB, C+: Greene has shown very little aside for really the San Diego game. Is it the line? Maybe. But he wasn't great last year either with a great line. LT is on his last legs when running the ball, but is still great at catching out of the backfield, and blocking on 3rd down. McKnight needs to get more touches. Connor has not impressed in replacing T-Rich.

    WR, C-: Tone has not been the monster he can be. Plax has looked lost for most of the season aside for last Sunday. Maybe it's rust, maybe Schotty has no clue how to use him, maybe he is just too old. Mason was a complete and utter waste. Kerley has shown flashed. Keller is not very good.

    O-line, B+: When Mangold has been in there, they have been solid. The problem is that there is no depth. Vlad needs to be cut after this year since he is useless. The back-up center is nothing special, and this team really gut hurt when Turner hurt himself.

    D-Line, A-: Have had injuries and depth is a problem, but have held up nicely when not asked to be on the field for 35+ minutes. Mo has been a pleasant surprise. Ellis looked good when he was in there. Pouha has been solid. Only guy that regressed has been Devito.

    Linebackers, B: Harris has been solid, as always. Bart Scott has missed a million tackles this year. Is age starting to be a factor for him? Pace is solid, but not spectacular. Very disappointing pass rusher. The loss of Thomas has hurt the run defense. Westerman is not a starting caliber LB. Maybin has been a bit of a steal. Hope to see him develop more and become the player he should have been out of college.

    Secondary: A-: Revis has been DPOY. Wilson has shown that he belongs, and might make Cro expendable soon. Leohnard has been pretty good this year. Smith has been great in run coverage, mediocre against the pass. Cro still doesnt get that he can be so fucking nasty if he plays like Revis and rapes people at the line. Clearly Cro commits too many penalties.

    ST: A: McKnight has looked great replacing Smith. Folk has not missed a kick. The punter has been good. Only negative is that this team still almost never gets any explosive plays from whoever returns punts.
     
  12. Going4TheGreen

    Going4TheGreen Well-Known Member

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    He's still a linebacker in this scheme, man. The linemen eat up space to free the fourth rusher. Where you line-up the rusher is irrelevant.

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/09000d5d8233a2fd/Jets-defense-sack-4-yd-loss

    He's in a four point stance there, but he fills a LB role. He's a linebacker.

    Also, it is not the defensive line's responsibility to sack the quarterback. Plug the holes on running plays, push the pocket on passing. If your teams ranks 3rd in the league in sacks (I know they haven't had their bye) then they are doing their job. Freeing up space for the LBers to make plays.

    The LBs deserve the weaker grade than the DL for not setting the edge.
     
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  13. Going4TheGreen

    Going4TheGreen Well-Known Member

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    Baltimore game is an outlier for Sanchez. He has been progressing. He's a good quarterback now. Every quarterback makes mistakes, and each one gets lucky breaks with DBs not catching the mistakes.

    Keller is good. Just not so good at blocking, but he's improving.

    Give Vlad his rookie contract. We won't save money cutting him until 2013. Hunter is older, and we need help on the O-Line, we can't give up on him yet.
    http://nyjetscap.com/vladimirducasse.html

    Cromartie isn't going anywhere until at the very least 2013 but the more likely scenario is 2014. Unless we're talking trades. But I can't foresee any team wanting to pay this guy 10 mil when he's 30+ years old.
    http://nyjetscap.com/antoniocromartie.html
     
  14. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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  15. Going4TheGreen

    Going4TheGreen Well-Known Member

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    NFL has him listed as a DE, lol.
     
  16. ace_o_spades

    ace_o_spades New Member

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    I've seen Maybin line up with his hand in the ground a few times
     
  17. laxin

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    If and when Maybin can maintain a playing weight of 240-245, he's gonna be scary...

    But, he has not been 240 since the draft and probably wont be until a full year with the Jets strength and conditioning coaches
     
  18. zllehs

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    thankyou

    how many of you re-watch the games?
     
  20. zllehs

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    100% understand what youre saying
    but i still maintain my LB/DE hybrid stance
    he is often a stand up rushing LB
    but on more than one occasion he is the 4th down lineman in a 3 or 4 pt stance and will either rush the QB or drop back in coverage once every little while

    on the play you selected above he wasnt a rusher
    you can tell because he didnt attack the TE at the snap of the ball
    he takes 2 steps to make it look like he will rush and then stops to see what the TE does

    the TE then stops pretending to block and breaks away to get open for a pass
    Maybin follows him for about 2 steps proving that he was never a rusher on that play but in coverage

    then maybin sees the QB break out of the pocket and chases him down because he was the last line of defense

    the DL did a good job of collapsing the pocket that play
    either they get the sack or the QB finds a hole and escapses and then becomes maybins responsibility

    good play
     

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