Honestly we're one Romo meltdown short of 1 and 4 this season. The Dolphins are not going to be a cakewalk next week. If we're going to have any success this season what are the top three things that need to happen on the field? Please do not include any coaching or Shottenheimer comments, I don't think that's going to happen till end of season. Here's my three: - Sanchez has to get immeasurably better. He was horrid yesterday, how many open receivers did he miss? - Our OL has to dominate the LOS, especially in the running game. - We need to stop the run and limit the opposing offense's options like we used to in the past.
the OL definitely showed some improvement yesterday... to sum it up, we have to do a better job (OR AT LEAST MAKE AN ATTEMPT) to attack an opponents weaknesses... this falls on gameplanning... how do u not try to test the 32nd worst passing defense in the league... for the most part i thought our D did a good job throughout the game... we got burnt on the long one to welker whcih killed us... but the last drive was inexcusable... he HAVE to stop the run when we know its coming... i didnt notice but someone said on another thread that devito and pouha werent even out there for that final drive... ? any explanation for that?
The team is too inconsistent. It seems like each game they have fixed something wrong from the previous game, and then they have a problem somewhere else. I know the rushing D has been bad, but it looked better against the Ravens. Yesterday it looked like shit. Meanwhile Mangold's return meant the OL played much better, and the rushing attack picked up. And then Sanchez only throws for a putrid 70 yards through the first three quarters. Penalties are also killing this team. That 3rd and 27 where Strickland got his legs tied up and got the PI call was a killer. 89 yards in penalties. Yikes. Must be Brian Schottenheimer's fault.
All but one of the seven 3 and outs were Brian Schottenheimer's fault. John Conner's drop can't be put on him, but most of the other third down calls were fucking horrid.
I thought Sanchez was ok yesterday. There are 2 things that I care about and that is all. After that,everything will fall into place. the Jets need to keep pushing the running game. It looked better yesterday and it's the only key to having success. We will never have a peyton manning throwing offense. Pass Rush- They need to get to the QB more like they did yesterday. It had been missing. Also,need to stop the run. If those things are happening it means the lines are playing good.
Couldn't agree more. On one of the many 3rd downs they needed 7 yards and the play was 4 wide all running 5 yard hitches!!! WTF!!! Enough with schotty!!!
its impossible to ask what we need to improve and not mention shottenheimer... the number of times we have routes that are all short of the marker on 3rd down are mind boggling... there is no excuse for that... we would be better off asking madden.......
By the way the the FB dive into the teeth of the defense for ZERO yards is not a go(waste of a down if you ask me)
I don't know about that. I suspect there is something wrong with his arm/shoulder. Remember a few games back there was some concern that was brushed off? Then against the Ravens he got the piss beat out of him, so I suspect there's a physical problem with his throwing. Too many low throws, behind the receiver slants and for the first time, some of his throws looked Pennington-like. I know Mark doesn't have a canon, but he's been able to get the ball downfield when he needed to without subjecting our WR's to concussion-inducing hits, but he seems off to me. Not as many "nice throw Mark" thoughts going through my head lately, other than the great TD throw to Holmes. I am concerned.
Think sanchez missed a couple throws but were catchable balls still. The team in general had to many drops. Burress had 2 holmes conner sanchez missed like 9 passes 4 or 5 were drops. Biggest problem would be the play designs the qb is being asked to throw into tight spaces in tight coverage to often. No shots even on third and long yesterday was first time ive seen us attack the middle of the field at times and not the 2 yard slant to holmes. If we are going to spread it out at times then please at least use the whole field or its pointless. to turnaround season we need to 1.stop the run better much better... 2.Return to form like we started to do yesterday 3.Mix it up on both side of ball (we did on d yesterday but had a couple lapses)
I pretty much agree with what your saying but outside of the 1st few possessions of the game Sanchez didn't miss too many open guys. He started out slow but as the game went on he got better when the play calling allowed him to get better. The Connor drop was huge but honestly I have no idea why you are throwing to him to begin with. Why is Joe McKnight or LT not in at that spot. Not saying it absolves Connor because that is absolutely inexcusable to drop that ball. Burress also dropped two passes yesterday. Our OL was better today but very inconsistent. They were good on our actual drives but terrible on the 3 and outs. The whole offense seems to play like shit together. We don't have anybody that stands out when times are bad. We need somebody to step up in spite of all the bad play and start making plays. Whether it be Moore, Slausen, Holmes, Greene or Sanchez when the O sucks they suck as a unit but when they all play well things happen. Somebody needs to elevate their play because this unit is an Achilles heel right now. I thought Hunter played his best game yesterday and I think Anderson was offsides on that last play of the game when he beat Hunter for the sack. I think this unit will get better because Mangold makes a huge difference. I am very concerned about our run D, I think our run D is being overlooked because of how bad the offense has been. MJD had about 90 yards on us even with McCoy handing us the game, it's not 100 and holding a back like him under 100 is a good week but with how bad Mccoy was he shouldn't have nearly have gotten close to that mark. We got absolutely ripped to shreds by McFadden a few weeks ago. Last week when the Ravens finally committed to the run we had no way to stop Ray Rice and yesterday an average at best RB shredded us. People look at the last drive and say the D was gassed but in the 1st half Green-Ellis was ripping off 6 to 8 yard runs with consistency. The Pats OL dominated our DL and our LB's are slow and aren't making plays. Outside of Westerman what LB stepped up yesterday and made plays?
this has to be one of the most foolish posts of the day. firing shotty isn't the jets main problem. there are many. the defense isn't playing at a high level. the offense is "offensive" the oline is bad the recievers are not as good or in sinc with sanchez " plax/mason<<<cotch/edwards" the run game is poor the qb is not taking his game to another level, as is needed to play consistantly this is not last years team. they have taken a step or two back and many don't see it, want to see it or want to admit it. reallity on the field says all that needs to be said. 166 yards passing against the worst defense in the league says the offense is really bad!
Tom Moore I would hand the playcalling over to Tom Moore. Schotty needs to start listening to his advice. Moore was not brought in here to not be listened to:finssuck:
Yesterday was a perfect example of how stats can mislead. Sanchez finished with good stats, but most of the better numbers on YPC were "earned" while the Pats were in prevent in the fourth quarter. Through the first three quarters, Sanchez had a grand total of 70 yards. 70 yards in three quarters sucks.
How do you not think that Schotty is mostly to blame? For the most part Sanchez played well for what he was asked to do (thats the main problem- what he was asked to do was throw 5 yard button hooks on 3rd and 7) IMO our run game vastly improved and our Oline play was the best its been all season- what an impact Mangold has on a unit. Our defense DID in fact play well yesterday. They held Brady to 27 points (3 being due to special teams) and by the end of the game, our defense was gases. They were out there at least 70% of the game, and by the last drive they couldnt stop a nose bleed. And yet that also can be brought back to Brian Schottenhiemer. The terrible play calls on 3rd down killed us. Killed our momentum. Killed our defense. Schotty is most definitely a major problem.
I thought so too. Some numbers: QB Rating: 105.6 16 of 26 (62%) 166 yards. 2 TDs. 0 turnovers. I'm sure if I go back and look I can find some bad throws, but he played about as well as he could within the gameplan imo.
