We try to make our best offensive linemen take paycuts when the only necessary cut is Pennington. I smell a walk out by a lot of our veterans coming up. They're good guys, they don't need this kind of disrespect from management. Now we're going to be a young team again with too many problems, including the youngest coach in football. I am so furious right now. This kind of management would make Kotex proud. :shit:
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I can tell you don't spend much time on this side of the forum. Mike, we're way over the cap. The ability of these linemen is severely deteriorated and they aren't worth what they're getting. This is GREAT management: play for what you're worth, or get out. All three of them are older and would have to be replaced within a couple seasons anyway.
OH BROTHER. The Jets won't "compete for a SB" for at least 2-3 years if that... Mawae will be DONE by then.... The NEED to make some cuts and choices that won't please all.. Sorry you're not pleased but, I wanted this Blood Shedding for years now.. You can't just keep throwing money at older guys and hope to plug 1,000 holes in a leaking bucket... mangini needs to clear the team, fix the cap and BUILD HIS OWN TEAM.
Buy cutting Penny the Jets will only save 4.5 mil I do believe. Supposedly, the Jets are approx 30 mil over the cap. (those were the numbers a few months ago) How else would you propose the Jets get under the cap amount? If you think that Penny is the only one whose contract needs to be redone or waived then you severly underestimate our cap situation.
We're getting rid of players who are over-the-hill and overpaid. I'm glad that Mangini/Tannenbaum are finally taking a stance like this. This would of never happened with Herm/Bradway. The old regime took personnel issues way too personal, and weren't willing to generally cut ties with players who were there for awhile. Look at Mo Lewis and Marvin Jones, those guys were dead weight on the team for 2 years before any action was taken. Atleast this regime is taking a proactive approach.
You are seriously the biggest trouble maker on the board...I wouldn't be surprised if you go postal. I want them to cut alot of people and start afresh. Young players young players young players....and coaches. Fresh faces, bright idea, and faster, healthier players........maybe it will lead to 3 crappy years but they'll develop. I say more like 1 crappy year.
the sky is falling the sky is falling... Thats what your posts scream lately... I believe most of the Jet fans are happy we'll be getting what's been needed here since Herm took over, a total and complete make over... top to bottom front to back... Take the 3 years, I'm all for it. Ellis
Agree. The Bradway/Edwards regime had this main strategy: Keep the Parcells core as long as possible, overpaying if you have to, and hope we get lucky in the draft with some surround sound players. This was long overdue, it's a business and Mawae, Kendall, Fabini have made their dime and can move on in life.
You guys make it sound like we're doomed because we're cutting replaceable parts like Kendall, Sowell, Gragg, Fabini, and Fiedler. I'm sure we'll sign or draft a couple of solid offensive linemen, Askew replaces Sowell, and who gives a shit about Fiedler. The problem, of course, is our lack of a healthy QB. We're not going to get any worse by getting rid of the aforementioned players. I mean losing Fabini certainly won't cause us to be bad for three years.
To add to the chorus, there's an old saying that it's much better to get rid of a player one year too soon than one year too late. The Jets have in recent years gotten rid of players either five years too soon or three years too late. If overpaid aging vets won't take big pay cuts, you get rid of them. Even if it doesn't help the cap immediately, it makes the pain last a lot shorter than if you spread it out by restructuring contracts. I'll wait to criticize anyone until it becomes clear that they won't take a cut (this might be posturing, after all), but I have no problem accepting a sub-.500 team next year with an average age of 25 or less, compared to one with an average age of 30.
You totally understand how to play the game. I have said this was not going to get fixed in a year. Ok, I may have been wrong. It might take 2 years. Herm/Bradway left one hell of a mess behind, from the coaching staff, to aging players with bloated contracts, to lack of depth, lack of conditioning, to chicken carcusses, to empty Kool-aid containers. Just a friggin' mess. Mangini and company are doing what a coach has to do, not a players coach. We better get use to this, but we have not seen the last of it.
Why are you surprised? The handwriting has been on the wall for a long time.... drafting a rookie QB means three years lost. That's just the way it is.
He had a team to play behind, a great O line, and a running game.... let's not forget that Roethlisberger has so far been a ONE TIME exception to that rule as well. (well, maybe Marino too) If you think given this team's situation that they will be competitive in the next year or two, I think yer nuts.
And Tom Brady, I guess. But, then, he's the exception to ALL those sorts of rules. I'm not necessarily disagreeing. If you're drafting a quarterback as a starter, chances are good that you stunk up the joint the prior year, and that will have as much to do as anything with your lack of success to follow. Assuming that the talent around your quarterback isn't horrible, your general rule should read, Drafting the wrong quarterback means three lost years."
