Run the Football

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  1. guinness77

    guinness77 Active Member

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    I know our defense wasn't the norm, but if I were Josh McCown, I'd be worried already.
     
  2. JCotchrocket

    JCotchrocket Active Member

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    I thought the offensive gameplan was suitably effective. I had a few issues with Sanchez's execution but I thought the gameplan was good.

    Maybe somebody else heard this, maybe I was just hearing things... I could've sworn there was a play in the 2nd half where Sanchez called out a shift and then Mangold (presumably) said, "No, we're good, we're good."

    I think the whole offense had a good game. What Greene lacked in touches and yardage he made up for in breaking Mike Jenkins.
     
  3. JfaulkNYJ

    JfaulkNYJ New Member

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    no fullback. still bad rushing tho
     
  4. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    Meh.

    Running game wasn't there from the beginning. Offense has some kinks but they won't be going against a Ryan defense every week.
     
  5. Pick6Revis

    Pick6Revis New Member

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    If teams are stacking the box, your gonna have a tough time running the ball.

    Still I thought the Short Passes to LT was an extension of the running game
     
  6. JetFanInMD

    JetFanInMD New Member

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    When the Jets are down by two touchdowns in the second half you think they should run the ball?
     
  7. HardHitta

    HardHitta Well-Known Member

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    We gotta go more 50/50 but to be honest we were down the whole game and there secondary was falling apart. Well run the rock more in the coming weeks.
     
  8. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    He won't be able to read the defenses.

    And as long as the Jets stop Mercedes Lewis, they'll win by 20 pts.
     
  9. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    ground and pound is dead, folks. I honestly believe Rex has given Schotty permission to open the playbook up. We are a pass first team now, believe it or not.
     
  10. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    Then why are we still running on 90% of our first downs?
     
  11. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    I am hoping they were throwing just because of the Cowboys corner situation. Otherwise,i want the jets to be a running team as well.
     
  12. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    I completely agree with the tone and perspective of your post. The only thing I would add though, is our offense really needs to figure out how to start games faster. We started slowly, offensively, in all three playoff games last year and throughout much of the regular season. This game was no different. We need to figure that shit out because it will come back to bite us in the ass against a good team, in a big playoff game.
     
  13. FlashGordon

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    I support this statement. Gotta attack the weak part of the D.
     
  14. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    We have picked a halfback in the past three drafts, guys who don't have the greatest reputations as pass catchers. Dumping the running game early to start slinging it left and right doesn't make sense with this personnel or this drafting philosophy. 15 called running plays all game was as much a cause for the point deficit as it was a symptom.
     
  15. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    I think running the football more in the first half would have given the Jets a better chance to not be down by two TDs in the second half to begin with.

    I'm not going to harp on this issue for after post. It was week one. The Cowboys already had a depleted secondary coming into the game. The Cowboys' run defense is not something to laugh at. We got a win out of tonight.

    I wish the Jets had a lead before their last offensive possession. I think running more on the early downs would have helped. So would have stopping Dez Bryant early and containing Jason Witten. Whatever. We won; no pessimism until next Monday.
     
  16. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    I don't understand the question, considering that they ran on no where near 90% of the 1st down snaps? did i miss something? Heck, in the second half it, seemed like almost every 1st down play was a play-action pass.
     
  17. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    1. A hyperbole is a poetic device used to emphasize a point through exaggeration.

    2. Schottenheimer has a noted problem with predictably running on first down and then going pass pass on the resulting two, ie: the final drive before Nick Folk. I'll admit, it wasn't the most well thought out comment to make my point and was circuitous logic at best.

    My overall point:

    If we're a pass-first team then we're doing a shit job of it. The passing game is supposed to get the Jets in better field position over the course of the drive, not bail the offense out of long downs on second and third.

    Schottenheimer has way too often came out on first down, gotten nothing and then passed it twice. Good offenses know to mix it up, even pass-first teams. The Jets abandoned the run on first down method early out of necessity, not out of philosophy. More accurately, the team appears to be more inclined to abandon the run early than embrace the pass.
     
  18. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    I partially agree with you but I can't help but feel that, whether we like it or not, Rex is serious about opening up the offense. The Jets clearly want to throw the football. By their standards, they ran an inordinate amount of plays out of spread formations and it was clear from the get go that they planned to attack the Cowboys weakened secondary. We have to be very careful trying too derive too many conclusions from opening night (Partially because it was only one game and partially because the Jets are one of the more matchup-specific oriented gameplanning teams in the NFL, but I firmly believe we will, at the very least, be a 50-50 (pass/run) team. At the very least.
     
  19. LoyalJetsFan

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    We had to pass being down 2 scores.

    Plus they had the box stacked, daring us to throw
     
  20. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    I'm fully cognizant of what literary hyperbole is and how it is implicitly used in common discourse. My confusion was derived, primarily, from the fact that your 'exaggeration' wasn't an exaggeration at all. An exaggeration is a representation of some known entity or quality in an excessive manner. It isn't a blatant fabrication. It should, at least to some minute degree, be based in truth and reality. Otherwise, how could a humble correspondent, like myself, be able to pick up on such potent literary artillery . . . but I digress . . .

    As to your point, I agree with most of it. Schotty can often be painstakingly predictable and far too often employs a traditional "run-pass-pass" approach to his play-sequencing. . . I just didn't think he was overly predictable in this game. And did he really abandon his "run on first down" inclination "out of necessity"? If my memory serves me, the Jets threw the ball on their first three plays of the game. I'm also pretty sure two of the next three plays were passes. IMO, Schotty came into the game with an overtly aggressive, pass-oriented, gameplan.
     

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