Belichick doesn’t see the point in extra points

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  1. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    It wasn't accepting the point they were just too lazy to make a kick meter so kickoffs and extra points were done for you. Choosing to kick meant it just told you if you went in.
     
  2. Chrebet86

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    I dunno on PS it said free point, as soon as you hit it, it instantly went right to the other team catching the kickoff. That game was awesome when I was a kid, DA BOMB everytime lol my brother couldnt beat the screen play to Biankabatuka haha
     
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  4. Johnny English

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    In rugby, the kick after a try (equivalent to a touchdown) is taken directly in line with where the try was scored i.e. if the player scored under the posts then the kick is taken from the middle of the pitch, but if the try is scored in the corner then the kick is taken from the touchline, which is obviously a much harder kick to make. Not sure if that would translate to the NFL though.
     
  5. CT. Jets Fan

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    I'm trying to keep track here..

    So far, Belichick is in favor of eliminating:

    - The Kickoff

    - The Extra Point

    - Marital Fidelity
     
  6. James Calvin

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    It's just Belichek being a whiny bitch. Kickoffs spots have been moved a couple of times over the years- it used to be the 40. When 'soccer style' kickers were getting more distance the NFL moved the kickoff line to the 30 to generate more offense.

    The major rules changes in the last couple of years have been concerned with player safety. They didn't move the kickoff spot in order to 'eliminate non-plays'. The extra point has been part of football for over 100 years.
     
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  7. BakerMaker

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    Even though he is somewhat right, I do appreciate the extra point my kicker gets each week in fantasy football via the XP and that has saved my ass 1-2 times before so KEEP IT! :up:
     
  8. gopats88

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    It is still a non-competitive aspect to a competitive game. The NFL only exists as entertainment for people like us. The PAT forces us to wait a couple extra minutes for 'real' action, just to see some team basically be handed a free point.
     
  9. James Calvin

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    It's not a non-play when it's missed. If they wanted to speed up the game, there are much better options.

    There's less than 30 minutes of actual action in a game that lasts 3 hours to watch. Eliminating the 2 minute warning would save more of your precious time than extra points take up.
     
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  10. gopats88

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    I am not personally trying to argue in favor of anything, but I think your argument has some flaws.

    I could argue that the 2-minute warning is more meaningful to the game than something that has the same result 99% of the time (don't know if that number is actually true, but whatever).

    Even in the event of a missed PAT, the chances of that point affecting the outcome of a game are still small. If we could hypothetically play an entire season simultaneously with two different sets of rules (1. current PAT rules stand, 2. Teams are given 1 pt free or have 2-pt option), most likely zero games would have different results (winning teams) because of those differences. Even over the course of a decade, I would be suprised if more than 2 or three games changed.

    The 2-minute warning may be a waste of time in many games, but it also has a drastic effect in close games where better coaching in the final minutes can prevail. It gives us the opportunity to see some of the most creative playcalling there is to watch in football.
     
  11. colleen74

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    You forgot not cheating (at sports... you covered the marriage part, at least he's consistent I guess).
     
  12. CJLang

    CJLang Well-Known Member

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    In the NFL you have to announce when you're going for two, so they could just spot the ball differently for each. At the 15 or 20 for xtra point, and 2 yd line for 2 pointer.
     
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    I know, I was referring to his initial suggestion of doing away with the kick altogether. You can't just give a team an extra point for doing nothing.
     
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    They should have all sorts of mini-games and activities planned for each indivudal PAT.


    The refs can all meet at eachother's houses the night before and decide upon which games they would like the participants to participate in.
     
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    Is this true? Never knew about this...

    So a team can't fake a fg attempt and go for a pass/run on an extra point?

    What happens in "fire" -situations (when a botched hold or snap occurs and the holder or kicker throws the ball to an eligible receiver to try to salvage the attempt)?

    Guess you learn something every day...
     
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    The kicker has to be nut punched just before the pat.
     
  19. Chrisp22

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    Belichek and ESPN's Skip Bayless agree on something. Wonderful.
     
  20. Chrebet86

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    Seriously? Have you ever seen a game where the PAT is blocked or missed? Guranteed every single time the announcer is gonna say something to the effect of "That 1 point is gonna comeback to haunt them..." And they say it because it is absurdly true. This actually happens quite often i never really kept track but id say around 4 times a year, or more possibly.
     

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