I want to note something here... I keep reading that Mangini has scheduled less 2-a-day practices for his squad than Herm Edwards used to schedule. We always got on Herm about his "Camp Herm" type of training camps. Well, to clafiry - just because Mangini isn't scheduling a lot of 2-a-days doesn't mean he won't use the time better than his predecessor. From everything we'ver read about Mangini and his schemes and style, it is very intricate and there is a lot of learning necessary. Even if the team isn't out on the field hitting, that doesn't mean they won't be in the classroom in team break out sessions working on learning and understanding the offense and defense inside and out. If also doesn't mean that the single practices won't be run at a more up temp pace and that the coaches won't push the players harder in the time alloted.
I went back and dug-up this old post of mine from back in the day: This time, I think I'll just stay quiet and watch.
I pulled this out of the Cannizarro article in another thread, but I think it makes much more sense here. For starters, Mangini has turned the trainer's room from country club to sterile hospital quarters, thus dissuading players from using it like a spa. Gone is any carpeting that adorned the room, along with any comfort areas to hang out in and the music the players liked to listen to while soaking themselves. One team insider quipped that Mangini was considering piping in some of the worst music he could think of. Mangini also has employed several more stationary bikes to be used on the practice field when a player tells a trainer he's not feeling great. That player, instead of being allowed a loaf on the sideline and rest, is sent to the cycle to keep working out. I remember these same sort of changes made when Parcells took over for Kotite. Players have to realize that a lot of work needs to be accomplished in a very short time. It's going to be a fun few weeks in Jets camp, looking forward to the various threads....
This was my favorite part of the morning's readings, too. I can't believe they had music in the trainer's room. That's like Sports 101, what not to do. I am justly overwhelmingly pleased with the changes thus far. But he's really going to make or break himself as a coach when we have that 3 or 4 game losing streak, which we may well have this year, and how he handles it.
Here's from another article..... "Certainly the camp schedules are similar. Mangini has planned seven double sessions, compared to Belichick's eight. That number seems low, although it is becoming the NFL norm these days as coaches cut back on the traditional death-march approach to training camp. Buffalo will have only two two-a-days, though a handful of teams have scheduled as many as 12. All Jets practices this summer under Mangini should feel different from those during the five years of Camp Herm. For one, Mangini's workouts will run longer, to two hours-plus, as they did at minicamp."
My guess is the Jets are spending a lot more time in the classroom than they did in the last couple of seasons. The practices are only of real value to a) get players into shape and b) let them put into motion all the X's and O's on the chalkboard. Right now the Jets need the first but there are not enough of the second to justify a heavy practice field workload. I'll bet the pace goes up considerably and that the Jets are spending a LOT of time on the practice field in the last two weeks of camp when things normally slacken up a bit.
If true sounds good & big kudos to Man. Probably will have to release most of Herms "guys" to get the necessary results he will be looking for IMHO.
Herm never got a "pass." It's easy to get a break from the media when you go to the playoffs three times and tell them EVERYTHING they want to know.
Man, those NFL players have it made. When I played in high school, we had 3-a-days with full contact, full pads for every practice.
In the last 20 years the Jets have made the playoffs exactly six times. Half of those playoffs appearances were under Herman Edwards, including only the second AFC East title in Jets history. Only two years he Jets missed the playoffs under Edwards his QB was injured.
Yes if you consider making the POs a big thing. To me ANYTHING less then a WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP is not a successful year. After like the Pats winning 3 in 4 years then I would say it would be OK to just make the POs.
Yet another moronic statement. He hasn't coached a game yet. His FA signings and draft choices haven't played yet. So the only things he has to be accountable for, at this point, are the organizational changes. So what organizational changes would you consider bad that he has to be held accountable for? Oh that's right, your a Herm fan, you probably miss Club Ed.
