All things Aso

No one is saying that Asomugha doesn't help the defense or that we don't see Asomugha's incredible talents, but the upgrade isn't so much over what we had with Cromartie who would be much cheaper.

 

ummm, no we don't...he's acting like a bitch, if he REALLY wanted to play here he would have signed already.

 

The Jets did actually go D-LINE with their first two picks in the draft this year. Maybe Wilkerson is the guy the Jets think can get after the QB.

 

People need to realize, your best pass rushers are the ones unaccounted for.
IOW
a Man up CB is great but having 2? That would be the best pass rush you can get....

 

I'll say this, I think people are way too impatient and are buying into the media's "FA BLITZ" way too much.

Our #1 Prio was Holmes, done. Now it's Aso and if we don't get him TannyWood is ready to use said $$$ on other pieces we need.

I do buy into the more bodies theory but remember we are Talking a Rex D philosiphy which is predicated on 1v1 Corners and Blitzing...

 

Most of these guys are inside linebackers, which the jets would be completely retarded to go out and spend big money on.

Do you know anything about football ?

 

All but one of these LB's listed are 4-3 LB's, you are aware of that right?

 

I have to agree. We did not lose games because of cromarties play last year. Say what you want about the guy but he is a legit #2. Getting aso, we are paying 2x as much but not getting 2x the talent. Regardless of where we would spend that money, an aso paycheck is enough to sign 2 other higher caliber players..ie Braylon and/or whomever. Our bigger problem last year was getting burned underneath covering the slot and TEs. Personally, I think we get better value keeping cro and upgrading our nickel (assuming wilson is not ready to step up) an d our pass rush, although the options are limited.

 

So you think Cromartie is going to sign for 8 million and Aso 16 a year ?

For some reason I think youre completely and entirely wrong.

 

This really can't be stressed enough. OLB in a 4-3 is almost a different position. it's a different role, with different assignments, and different match-ups. 4-3 OLB see TE, FB, and RB alot more than 3-4 who see Lineman a deal more

 

I put a comment to this effect in the other Asomugha thread, but I thought it deserved mention here as well because of what the OP said about needing to improve the pass rush.

The pass rush problem is not with the linebacking corps. Each linebacker, both inside and outside, has proven quite capable. That includes the four starters and backups like Westerman. They are a good bunch that can put up the right production if they're given the proper support.

The pass rush problem last year stemmed from the lack of youth and depth at D-Line. It's as simple as that. Since the opposing team's offensive line didn't have to devote its entire five-man allotment to the Jets' three-man front, offensive linemen were left to block linebackers. In a successful 3-4 pass rush, the defensive line will occupy 4-5 offensive linemen in order to free up the OLBs to make noise.

The Jets, though, didn't have a single guy on the D-Line who warranted a double team last year. Ellis underperformed, Pouha is a run-stuffer by trade, and Pryce was too far past his prime to swallow up two blockers. Thus, when the Jets tried to bring the house on third down blitzes, there was no problem picking up each rusher because there was only one blocker necessary for everyone who was coming.

With the influx of K. Ellis, Wilkerson, and a healthy Pitoitua, offensive linemen should have a lot more trouble with the Jets' D-Line this year. That will free up the linebackers for a better pass rush dramatically by itself.

However, if you throw in a cornerback the likes of Nnamdi Asomugha, the Jets will now have an extra fraction of a second or even a full second to pursue the QB and disrupt his rhythm because of how well he performs in man-to-man coverage. The impact of this can potentially be enormous. That's the value of importing a player of his caliber, and it arguably obviates the need to overhaul any of the pass-rushing positions. In that scheme, players who have proven themselves to be solid NFLers like Thomas and Pace should be able to get to the quarterback with regularity. The pressure will dramatically improve.

On the other hand, with last year's lackluster pressure from the D-Line, even the best LBs would find themselves struggling. Case in point: Ray Lewis lobbied very hard for the drafting of Haloti Ngata in the year when the Ravens had no nose tackle (can't recall the exact year off the top of my head). In the previous season, without Ngata, Lewis was generally ineffective, and everyone thought he was washed up. Ever since Ngata came in, Lewis has been back to making bigtime plays. Not a coincidence.

 

I am sorry that your mind works in such a literal and linear way that you can't understand that the point of the post which is that it is too much money to spend for not enough improvement.

 

i don't think Aso will net 15 per, and Cro 7 per like you mentioned in earlier post.
if the difference was 8mil between them, I'd agree with you.

As Joseph got 9.5mil per, i see Cro netting at least 9 (getting docked 500k for general douchery). Their talent levels are similar.
And i don't see the Jets going much higher than 12mil for Aso.
That makes the difference around 3 mil, while giving us the ability to dicate where offenses go with the football.
I'm all for the move..

 

How many of us have seen this cat play enough to say how good he is and how much better he is then Cro? Not me, I barely ever see the Radiers play. I trust Rex and Mr. T and damm, they must love this guy, because some postion(s) on this team are gonna take hit with all the money we would spend on CB. My concerns are at WR, Safety and LB, who are we gonna have to live with in order to pay so much for one position. They must have a plan if we get him in regards to other positions and if we don't get him we have to get Cro. I can not live with Wilson as the # 2, not yet anyway. And does that mean we sign Edwards also.

 

I have, and he is truly one of the greatest of all time, people simply do NOT throw to him.

 

Sign him, and then dominate the sissy just north of you.