Offense QB: Sanchez RB: Tomlinson FB: Conner WR: Edwards WR: Cotchery TE: Keller LT: Ferguson LG: Slauson C: Mangold RG: Moore RT: Ducasse Defense DE: Wilkerson NT: Pouha DE: Ellis OLB: Roth ILB: Harris ILB: Scott OLB: Pace CB: Revis CB: Cromartie FS: Lowery SS: Leonhard Special Teams K: Folk P: Weatherford
I agree with most of the starting lineups that have our starting roster changing very little from last season. I'm even more convinced after watching Hard Knocks again, when Tanny and Rex said they pay big for their front line and then they don't pay the backups really, and also when Tanny was talking about how to stay on the team and get paid well--the best way to do that is to become one of Rex's guys, when he was talking to Kellen... I think they'll find a way to pay to keep the big 3 FA's, or at least the two WRs, if they restructure a few of the contracts working against the cap currently, restructure/extend Sanchez, maybe Thomas who is under performing can be coerced to take less/restructure, etc. And, I know some people are down on Holmes, and people can say what they want about Holmes and not caring if he returns, but based on the NFLN Top 100 comments Rex made, and based on Rex's book where he's talking about being closer to Holmes at this point in knowing him than any other player he's ever had this long, practically... I get the vibe he loves Holmes, which might bode well for Holmes getting paid and returning (based on what Tanny said in Hard Knocks to Kellen--"become one of Rex's guys"). Even Deion Sanders said on NFLN that Rex, if the cap allows, usually gets his guys well taken care of. I respect your opinion, and understand why a lot of people hope for this, and maybe that scenario is possible that you mention... But IF the reports from this week that claim that Aso could be banking $14-19M a/yr on his next contract, due to some of the teams that are wanting to bid on him, and have to hit the salary floor, anyway... If Aso isn't looking to play for a discount, I wouldn't want the Jets to pay anywhere near that on another corner. They have Kyle Wilson waiting in the wings down the road, they eventually will have to re-work and extend Revis who is already expensive, given his contract currently is only a band-aid, and if his extension comes after Aso, too? That could drive his price up more... That type of money almost or definitely does secure both Holmes and Edwards or both Holmes and Cro. If we're going by: Edwards allegedly based on publications, speculations, agents (not his own), publications, news reports, scouts and anon GM's wants 7-8M a/yr. Certain agents and GMs have anonymously indicated he will more likely get the low end of that unless Holmes, Rice, and Floyd drive the market really out of whack when they set the market. Edwards has indicated he'll take a discount, but he also said he'd take a discount if the team was like $1M off the other offer, that's not a lot, in the scheme of a 35-40M/yr deal, so I think the Jets should be prepared to pay him. Holmes is one of the WRs that is widely speculated to help set the market for WRs this FA cycle and he allegedly, based on speculations, publications, agents (not his own), news reports, scouts and anon GM's will likely want/get between $8-10M a/yr. He'll most likely get the midrange in that, somewhere between 8-9M, we likely won't get him back for less than that on average, and unlike Edwards, he hasn't banked $30M+ already, so I think we have to be aggressive. That 19M lets us be aggressive with both guys, and probably pays for a minimum contract or two, too. Cro will come for much cheaper than Nnamdi (if that 19M tag is accurate) and it's a deep CB market, which works in the Jets favor, but Aso will still be setting the market rather high, not to mention the Revis contract, the Bailey contract, whatever Joseph gets, etc. Also, Cro has been name dropping and hinting he likes Houston a lot, I can't figure out if that's posturing or if he's really wanting to play there or what. Either way, I think we easily keep two of our big FA's and some others for what Aso is likely to command on his own. Because those per/year avgs don't have to indicate the cap hit we take on them, depending on how Tanny structures their contracts, does bonuses, guarantees, backloads, etc. Maybe I'm being ignorant but I think Holmes, Edwards, and Cro (or another corner) with an even decent pass rush would be better than overpaying for Aso and losing two of our FAs, one WR and Cro. Building around Sanchez is key. Not to mention how it can hamstring the cap going forward and impact what we can do for years to come carrying him and Revis, who are essentially making QB money, not to mention paying the QB we do have big money. Just my opinion, though.
I'm just not that high on Cro. I'm not saying he's bad, I just don't think he's worthy of a big contract. Teams picked on him at will last year, especially the top QB's. He had some really good games, but he also had a ton of atrocious games. I want a more consistent player opposite Revis. Obviously if Aso is gonna get some ridiculous contract from Philly, Dallas, or whoever it may be, the Jets can't do it. 19 million is insane. My hope is that Aso would take a discount to play here with Revis. We know it was speculated at the Pro Bowl last year. However, if it's a similar deal to Revis(i think about 32 guaranteed), then we can compete. Remember, Rex loves CB's. You don't think he and Mr. T want to make a serious run at this guy? Mr. T loves making big splashes. Re-signing Holmes, signing Aso, and signing Plaxico would be a nice off-season. Upgrade big time in the secondary. I don't think people understand just how amazing it would be to have those 2 guys on the field at the same time. I'd obviously rather have Braylon or Plax, but a motivated and happy Plax playing for Rex is a good thing. He provides a similar big target for Sanchez, although Plax isn't as fast. He's probably a better red zone target though.
There are obviously tangible benefits this year, more than any other, to retaining as many players as possible to minimise teaching in the likely constrained training camp.
I think it's more the philosophy. Rex has drafted a RB in each of his 3 drafts, because they typically wear down quickly. What's not to love about taking a bruiser in the later rounds each year, in a position that's easy to learn? I love Greene, but I don't think he'll have a long career in this league. I just think it's more being prepared for the next bruiser in the lineup, is all.
OFFENSE QB: Mark Sanchez RB: LaDainian Tomlinson FB: John Conner WR: Plaxico Burress WR: Braylon Edwards TE: Dustin Keller OT: D'Brickashaw Ferguson OG: Matt Slauson C: Nick Mangold OG: Brandon Moore OT: Vladimir Ducasse You all will say no way to letting Holmes go and keeping Edwards, but Edwards will be cheaper and if we tell him he will be the no question #1 he will stay. We could get Burress for a fraction of Holmes and free up money for our defense. Two big receivers like Edwards and Burress would make any defense nervous. DEFENSE: DE: Muhammed Wilkerson NT: Sione Pouha DE: Shaun Ellis OLB: Calvin Pace ILB: David Harris ILB: Bart Scott OLB: Bryan Thomas CB: Darrelle Revis CB: Antnio Cromartie (Kyle Wilson is not ready.) S: Jimmy Leonhard S: Dawan Landry My hoping is we will spend the money on our defense. Harris to a long deal, resign Cromartie at a fair contract and get Landry to make our defense #1. Landry is a long shot, but the idea of playing for Rex and the Jets would be tempting for any DB.
Pretty shocked to see so many people not put our best defensive lineman, Mike DeVito, in the starting lineup. I guess if you're going purely with the 3-4 starting lineup against passing teams DeVito might not make the cut, but he is certainly on the field more than half the time for this team.
OFFENSE QB: Mark Sanchez RB: Shonn Greene WR: Santonio Holmes WR: Jerricho Cotchery WR/FB: Lance Moore/John Conner TE: Dustin Keller OT: D'Brickashaw Ferguson OG: Matt Slauson C: Nick Mangold OG: Brandon Moore OT: Damien Woody Kerley may be the answer at slot receiver, but we can't take that chance on a rookie when we have a team built to win right now. If we are able to re-sign Holmes then we will still probably need a replacement for Cotchery in the future, so Moore gives us insurance there as well (even though I like him much better for the slot). Woody should be brought back for one more year. If he stays healthy he's still a much better RT than Vlad at this point in their careers. DEFENSE DT: Sione Pouha DE/DT: Mike DeVito DE: Shaun Ellis DE/OLB: Muhammed Wilkerson/Bryan Thomas ILB: David Harris ILB: Bart Scott OLB: Calvin Pace CB: Darrelle Revis CB: Kyle Wilson S: Jim Leonhard S: Brodney Pool I think we'll play a lot of 4-3 as well as 3-4, moving our versatile defensive lineman all over the place. Ellis should be brought back if we can get him cheap, and Wilkerson should crack the starting lineup. I think Kyle Wilson is ready to take on the corner spot opposite Revis. There will be speed bumps and he'll make his mistakes, but that will happen with any corner in our system opposite Revis. Cromartie made plenty of mistakes as well, he'll just cost a TON more. We still don't have a very good nickel corner so I could see us going after someone like Michael Adams from Arizona for that role. I hope we hold onto Pool as we need someone back there with good coverage skills. Landry would be nice, but he's more expensive and probably worse in coverage than Pool anyways. Not sure we need another run stopper in the secondary with all the big hitters we already have.
Offense QB: Sanchez RB: Greene FB: Conner WR: Edwards WR: Cotchery TE: Keller LT: Ferguson LG: Slauson C: Mangold RG: Moore RT: Hunter Defense DE: Wilkerson NT: Pouha DE: Devito OLB: Thomas ILB: Harris ILB: Scott OLB: Pace CB: Revis CB: Wilson FS: Lowery SS: Leonhard Special Teams K: Folk P: Weatherford
My roster is pretty conservative thinking the Jets will bring in one or two FAs who will be starting by Week 3 at WR, OLB, CB, or FS. I really don't think the Jets will bring back a lot of our UFAs, which we all wish they would.
QB: Mark Sanchez RB: Shonn Greene FB: John Connor WR: Santonio Holmes WR: Randy Moss TE: Dustin Keller LT: D'Brick Ferguson LG: Matt Slauson C: Nick Mangold RG: Brandon Moore RT: Damien Woody(will be brought back, won't be enough time to get Ducasse ready) DE: Muhammad Wilkerson NT: Sione Pouha DE: Shaun Ellis OLB: Calvin Pace ILB: David Harris ILB: Bart Scott OLB: Bryan Thomas CB: Darrelle Revis CB: Antonio Cromartie S: Jim Leonhard S: Brodney Pool With this salary cap number being so low I think the Jets resign holmes but will lose braylon, Moss is given an incentive heavy contract.
Theres a rumor going around sayin the jets might let holmes and bray walk and sighn nmandi i dnt lik this idea i think sanchez in his 3rd yr needs those guys alot more then our d needs nmandi wa jw what u guys thought of this
Lets give this a shot QB: Sanchez RB: Greene FB: Connor WR: Edwards, Cotch, B. Smith TE: Keller LT: Brick LG: Slauson C: Mangold RG: Moore RT: Duccase DE: Shaun Ellis NT: Pouha/K. Ellis DE: Devito/Wilkerson OLB: Pace, Thomas MLB: Scott, Harris CB: Revis, Wilson S: Leonhard, E. Smith
Offense: QB: Brunell - comeback player of the year Rb: Brandon Moore - The new Shonne Greene FB: Tony Richardson - Jets go with experience Wr : Scotty McKnight - redrum Wr: Jeremy Kerley - Rex liked his picture in ESPN magazine Lt: Mangold - He was sick and tired of playing center LG: Alan Fanaca - Jets really missed him - talked him out of retirement C: Ducasse - no better spot to earn his oates RG: Shonne Greene - came in to camp 100 lbs overweight so Rex gave him new position RT: John Conner - no one better protecting Brunells blind side TE: Braylon Edwards - he really improved his run blocking last season Defense: DE: John Conner - Rex loves this guy so much has him playing both offense and defense NT: Steve Weatherford - Rex still mad at this guy for lousy playoffs DE: Ladainian Tomlinson - figured this would prolong his career LB: Bart Scott - "Can't Wait" LB: James Harrison - Jets make trade - Rex had to have this guy LB: Vernon Gholston - had a great workout - turned some heads LB: Trevor Pryce - still has something left in the tank CB: Revis Island - Rex went with fan favorite here CB: Nnamdi Ashumugha - Jets paid him 50 mil per year S: Santonio Holmes - won't drop any interceptions S: Nick Folk - good open field tackler K: Mark Sanchez - he is clutch P: Brad Smith - lots of fake punts planned this year
QB: Sanchez, Brunell, McElroy RB: Greene, Tomlinson, McKnight, Powell, Conner WR: Holmes, Edwards, Cotchery, Kerley, Turner TE: Keller, Cumberland, Mulligan OL: Ferguson, Slauson, Mangold, Moore, Woody, Ducasse, Turner, Hunter K: Novak P: Conley LS: Purdum DL: K.Ellis, Wilkerson, Pouha, De Vito, Pryce, S.Ellis, Dixon, Gilbert LB: Pace, Thomas, Scott, Harris, Westerman, Mauga CB: Cromartie, Revis, Wilson, Cole, Coleman, A.N. Other S: Lowery, Leonhard, Smith, Ihedigbo, Pool
