Sanchez passing yards Pre-Holmes: 175 yds/game average Sanchez passing yards w/ Holmes: 219 yds/game average
Towards the end of last season it was apparent who had had the better season, Edwards, so I think alot of people remember that. Couple that with the two polar opposite attitudes of late, and its a no-brainer.
I don't like Holmes comments, but ask yourself, when, if ever, the Jets had a WR who singlehandedly made as many game winning plays in a season ( and forgetting that he missed 4 games). We lose at Denver last year, at best tie against Cleveland or lose, Detroit-?, Houston-?, Game out of reach TD against NE in playoffs. With his ability to win games, I have no problem dealing with his mouth
It took me a minute... I do not think Holmes on the field makes any team's offense worse. The hurt comes from what it might take to get him out there. He was great for the Jets last year, and I got the impression that he was a hell of a teammate. (Hard Knocks, Flightboys, etc.) I also agree with Keller's production having to do with opponents adjusting. This may be bad for personal stats, but its not all bad for the offense. For me, this question just highlights the suspension Tone came with. Why is that?
You can't say we lose, because the entire game would be different. If he makes the catch at home vs Miami we win, but if he wasn't here that whole game would be different. That's as ignorant as saying, "well we beat the Pats in week 2 without Holmes and got our asses kicked on that horrific Monday night with Holmes"
Schotty doesn't know how to distribute the balls evenly around Braylon, Tone and DK. That shouldn't be on Holmes.
It's hard to say that we are worse with the guy, finances aside. But I feel like if he was gone, the remaining players could pickup the slack, and we wouldn't be that much worse off. This opinion is based largely on the assumption that Kerley is going to be a solid slot guy. Early reports look good! Fucking excited right now.
Schotty has an innate problem on play calling in different situations... His game plan is good but damn when twitter peeps are calling plays prior to him calling it kinda becomes ridiculous. About with Holmes, he has unique gifts that Edwards doesn't have. Both have the unique ability to make plays, but both are so different. Santonio is that clutch wide-out making something from nothing as Braylon is that deep threat that could be all or nothing type player.... Santonio proved his worth, being clutch game winning scores; more then once. Gives Mark confidence that he has that go to guy late in games. Braylon is that down field hope his head is in the game type player otherwise :shit: often with Braylon. Edwards showed up late in the season, being that every down players, but mainly b/c it was contract time.... Guarantee the front office is hoping that the lockout is lifted for the '11 season and the '10 CBA rules will go into affect here so with the drafting of Kerley & McKnight throw in a little Payne might be the difference in Edwards or Holmes receiving long term deals. Or they figure that Edwards is the only one they will be able to sign and Kerley will replace Holmes.... There are a bunch of ways to look at this, none of them plausible!
The number of targets was very evenly spread during games throughout the season, actually. The average # of targets per game: Holmes - 7.8 Edwards - 6.4 Keller - 6.3 Cotchery - 5.4 Tomlinson - 4.9 So, Holmes received on average 1.5 more targets per game than Edwards and Keller. Now, I'm sure people will say that those numbers are skewed by the first 4 games. Well, here are the average targets for each of the players above, except Holmes: Edwards - 4.8 Keller - 7.5 Cotchery - 5.3 Tomlinson - 4.8 Edwards actually received MORE targets with Holmes in the game than otherwise. And over those final 12 games, here are the total number of targets: Holmes - 94 total 7.8 per game Edwards - 83 total 6.9 per game Keller - 70 total 5.8 per game Cotchery - 66 total 5.5 per game Tomlinson - 60 total 5.0 per game How much more spread out would you like the ball to be? Do the numbers have to be dead even, or do we think it's acceptable that there's a 1 target difference between each of our primary receivers in descending order? The only person whose targets dropped over the course of the season was Keller, and the end result was incredibly well spread out. In fact, over the last half of the season, Edwards, Holmes, Cotchery, and Keller each led the team in targets in at least one game.
Did you even watch the team this season? Braylon was remarkably consistent throughout and drops weren't an issue in the slightest.
I watched Braylon near the end of the season be more consistent as a wide out should be all year long... He knew he needed to focus this year being that it was contract year, so as the season progressed he became that every down player you want. Short receptions, medium and deep threat... But just b/c it is contract year doesn't mean you don't do this every year...
With his comments lately, he sure has a funny way of demonstrating that he only cares about his contract.
So what if Braylon says show me the fracking money gang green and you know what Jets Front office will say.... Piss off!
I really want to disagree with all of the "Clutch" talk. There is no denying that Holmes caught some big passes, and made the final play of a few games, but I don't really think that is enough to label him as Clutch. He dropped his fair share of 3rd and criticals which are easilly as important as the flashy "Game Winner". He dropped a wide open TD against Miami. If you give him credit for winning a game with a TD catch, he has to be blamed for losing that one as well. He has some critical 3rd down drops throughout the season as well- also in a loss to Green Bay. I'm not saying he's not valuable, but to call him clutch doesn't work for me. Not with all of those clutch drops I've seen. Same goes for Cotch and Keller-- they killed us with drops.
I look at it like this... If I was an agent knowing that my client has off the field baggage in a contract year, I would tell em this... One you are going to have to make public statements to adhere to your faults and make a pledge to the fans that you are willing to come back at a lower salary. Once the fans are on your ban-wagon, then maybe the front office might listen to some negotiating... Then we can get you a long term contract at a premium base salary with incentives. On the field incentives, play and get paid packages, and not just one....several within this contract... So reality all Braylon is doing is feeding the media to reach to fans to say he is staying put as long as the organization ponies up with the deal I am proposing... I hope Braylon is truly sincere, but who knows really but him...
Listen there is no denying that Holmes made some big time "CLUTCH" plays for us... Not once, but on a few occasions... Did he make some costly mistakes, yes but they all did... We haven't branded Santonio Holmes, Mr. Clutch lol just a few plays he made...
i'd rather have santonio be straight up with us; as opposed to fluffing us up with all the smoke and mirrors and everything is perfect and then reversing course. he's earned a payday - it's just a matter of who's going to pay him and whether the jets offer is close. he seems to have developed chemistry with edwards and sanchez and the other players; but then again, it's a business. is he being smart with the media - probably not that smart or articulate, but he's never been... gotta love the off-season.
Minus that Ravens game and average it out. That game was a nightmare. A sample set of 4 games vs 12, or even if you included his rookie year makes no sense. Sanchez in his 3rd year will be better no matter who he is throwing to. On top of that we're still a run first team, so average passing yards per game don't mean shit. The only stat that matters is the W.
