I'm not sure that was directed solely at this thread. With that said, most of the Pats fans that swing by aren't that bad.
Okay... this is the right approach... Sorry if this hijacks your thread. It's not intended. My post count is never going to be high enough to permit me to post a new thread or to post a link. Search for the ESPN Bruschi podcast on Pats-Jets III I think all of you will enjoy this. It's a fun analysis of both the game and the game-within-the-game. With the right kind of levity and expertise. Now... I realize Jets fans won't appreciate Bruschi's final prediction, but I think you will enjoy the perspective. Enjoy. And if someone can, I'd create a thread so this isn't buried.
maybe he read these threads? http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?t=59063 http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?t=62815
Well, go back and read my post, then reply to the point I made. You ignored it and responded anyway. If it quacks like a duck...
actually, really good point. The Herald sports page is a complete joke and the writers are all horrible.
Is this the podcast you meant?: http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4691534/podcast-pats-vs-jets-part-iii I haven't listened to it, but I will make a thread for it. Nice post above btw about the article. Good perspective.
Great job with both your posts, agree 100% and frankly, as for Bruschi's predicition, well, the Pats are 9 point favorites for a reason... I think most realistic Jets fans on this site would tell you, it's going to take another "Herculian" effort to beat them in Foxboro. We're hoping our young QB takes a big step and puts together a big time game. He has shown flashes of being able to do so, but as I have said in numerous posts here, he could go for 350 and 3 tds and lose. Brady is that good, and on that much of a roll. Going to be about limiting possessions, by getting a few stops and not turning the ball over, and Sanchez making about 3 plays he missed last week, when that was happening. (The Jets getting 3 straight 3 and outs to start the game and NOT scoring on subsequent drives. Do that again, and they are not winning). And that (podcast) is what it should be all about... intelligent sports talk, discourse, and keeping things, while fiery, good natured I think that's why we are having such a visceral reaction to this... Callahans' use of the Binkley/Sanchez story as an angle is just so distasteful. You're right. Football is the least of what we should be taking him to task for.
The short answer is the 2001 Pats and the 2010 jets ran fairly comparable passing offenses focussed on intermediate range stuff-Brady averaged 10.8 yards a completion, Sanchez 11.8.
I just googled this guy and he himself has been treated for cancer and also, this guy has a big ass forehead. Damn! His son must be crying everyday looking at that shit.
Mike -- I can't read your link because my post count is too low. If you do the search I gave and just start up the podcast, it'll be obvious very quickly if you're listening to the playoff pod. Sanpete... great analysis. And GoPats and others do know exactly what I'm talking about. He's a real fan. And like others have said, there are some really good Pats fans posting on here. I just happened to make my point with a little bit more passion and anger than others. But to the game...From my perspective... X factors on the Pats side that make me uncomfortable are.. Hernandez has been out awhile. That's a concern. A depleted d-line. If anything happens to Wilfork, I can't say I like our chances. The fact that Spikes is a rookie who missed the last four games. The fact that the Pats have relied heavily on turnover differential. Any given game and that turnover differential could change. And if it does change, will the Pats be able to deal with it. Also -- to me the biggest x-factor is what I expect will be a far more intelligent approach by New York in terms of offensive strategy. Sanchez's injury plays into it. The Jets have no choice, really, other than to go back to the run. And that could hurt us. By the way, it really does look like Sanchez is more badly hurt than advertised. His inaccuracy in the Colts game suggests problems with mechanics. That said, he and his receivers have been gutty enough to make the plays when they have to. That speaks volumes. Great talking with you guys... Any given Sunday. Win or lose, I'll be back after the game to go through post mortem. Best to all.
Overall I actually don't have a problem with what the article said about Sanchez, at least in part. Yes the tone and bringing up Aiden s uneccesary, but from a pure football perspective he's right. If Sanchez plays like he did against the Colts this Sunday, we lose. Having said that, to say you'd rather have Hasselback than Sanchez is a joke. To say you'd rather have Cutler is actually joke. But the point is the Jets are fully capable of winning in spite of Sanchez (which is what they did on Saturday night). If he shows up and we run the ball as well as we have been, I really like our chances.
You could maybe make that claim if they had their starters healthy but I don't think you can say that the guys they had playing are better than NE's pass Defense. The Pats' Defense is pretty good and they seem to be improving every week.
Brady had alot more YAC, and the routes were much shorter for him. It was FAR more compareable to the Hackett WCO.
Plat same same... excellent analysis from Pats angle. I think Sanchez's arm is fine. Maybe a little dinged, but fine. I think you nailed it, his problems were mechanical. He might be, like a pitcher throwing with pain, over-compensating and messing with his delivery, but it has not been a velocity problem, and against the Bears in the first week he played hurt, he was tremendously accurate. I think one factor on Saturday night was, Sanchez has had a propensity for getting balls knocked down at the line, especially against athletic D lines, like Colts and Bears. I think he was trying to overcompensate for this by throwing high on the intermediate routes, and coupled with the arm injury messing with mechanics, made his accuracy just awful. I noticed on some of his completions the receivers seems to expect the ball to be high. Perhaps he had been high all week in practice. He hasn't found, consistently, the passing lanes he needs to in the NFL because of his height, and gets a number of quick slant and crossing throws batted down. Or he was just awful for the first half. Either way, he has to be better earlier for the Jets to have a chance in this game. They do have to run, but, just as they did last week, they have to let Sanchez take some shots. This time he cannot miss them. You can out-physical the Colts D. They did it wonderfully in the second half, when our OC began to call plays like his job was on the line, which it was. Don't think you can to the Pats. Oh, and then there's the fact that the Pats offense is the worst kind for the Jets to try to stop: No number 1 receiver to put Revis on, 5 legit targets on each snap that provide match up problems on at least 3 of them, a good pass protecting O line and a great QB who is relatively blitz-immune, and needs to have pressure applied by a front 4 that's dominant, which the Jets don't have. Ugh... now I have a head ache. Good luck Sunday and enjoy the game... I think this rivalry is renewed with elements that you need; genuine respect, yet genuine dislike for each other in the combatants, and both teams are legit talent wise.
