Better RB as a Jet: Freeman McNeil vs. Curtis Martin?

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Who had a better career as a Jets RB?

  1. Curtis Martin

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    85.7%
  2. Freeman McNeil

    19 vote(s)
    14.3%
  1. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    Again, the key here is to focus on their years as a New York Jet.
     
  2. iTzPoPPaBeaR

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    I grew up watching curtis martin idk who the other guy is
     
  3. Italian Seafood

    Italian Seafood New Member

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    I voted for Curtis Martin. McNeil was good but he got hurt a lot, while Curtis put up at least 1,000 yards every year until his very last when he couldn't do it anymore. They were very similar runners in style and results, ie shifty and effective but rarely broke long TDs.

    Funny, I was thinking last week of LT now as a Jet compared to Curtis in his later years. So far the edge has to go to LT.
     
  4. fenwyr

    fenwyr Active Member

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    I just remember Freeman being a more explosive/exciting guy. If not for injuries he would have put up some crazy numbers.
     
  5. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Curtis. And as much as I really liked Freeman McNeil (not sure how any Jets fan wouldn't know who Freeman is btw) this was a pretty easy choice.
     
  6. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    I'm going McNeil. I love Curtis Martin, but he had a HUGE O-Line in front of him compared to McNeil.
     
  7. mj2sexay

    mj2sexay Active Member

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    Lol. Wow bro. It's called Google. Do some research.

    That being said, Curtis hands down.
     
  8. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    When was the last time you heard McNeil and HOF mentioned together? This is no contest.
     
  9. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    IMHO a silly poll since the majority of posters on this board NEVER saw Freeman play since they are were not even born when he was a NYJ. That being said Freeman was the shiftier/fastest back but as IS pointed out he also was hurt far more often then CM was :up:
     
  10. MadBacker Prime

    MadBacker Prime THE Dead Rabbit

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    Tough call, they played in two very different styles of offense.

    These stats are just Curtis' as a Jet
    Curtis played in 123 games with the Jets, had 2,560 attempts for 10,302 yards which comes to 4 yards per carry.

    Freeman played 144 games, but only had 1,798 attempts for 8,074 yards which comes to 4.5 yards per carry.

    Receiving, Curtis had 367 receptions for 2,439 yards which comes to 6.6 yards per reception.

    Freeman 295 receptions for 2,961 yards, which comes to 10 yards per reception.



    I think just based off those stats we see that Freeman was more explosive, and he was. One huge stat in Curtis' favor is fumbles, Curtis only had 17, while Freeman had 45.


    Freeman had 1/2 a yard more per carry and nearly 4 more yards per catch. Also Curtis had a nose for the EZ, with 58 rushing TD's and 5 receiving TD's he has Freeman beat. Freeman had a total of 50 TD's 38 rushing, and 12 receiving.

    For his entire career Freeman averaged at least 4 yards per carry each season, not many backs have accomplished that feat. I think if Freeman could've stayed healthy Curtis would not be the number 1 Jet rusher.

    Based off that Freeman was better IMO.
     
  11. Italian Seafood

    Italian Seafood New Member

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    McNeil had a great O-line when he first got here. Marvin Powell and Chris Ward at T (Ward held a lot but was a good run blocker), Joe Fields at C, Dan Alexander and Randy Raassmussen at G. Rassmussen retired and Stan Waldemore took over, but mostly that line held up for Freeman's first 5-6 years, Ward eventually replaced by Reggie McElroy who was pretty good. No slouches in there, that's why we were a good team and Todd, Ryan and O'Brien had success in those years.
     
  12. Italian Seafood

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    Freeman played most of his career with Johnny Hector, who was also a good back and excellent in short yardage, so he got a lot of the carries down close.
     
  13. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    Which is why I asked to focus just on their years as a Jet.
     
  14. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    How many times was O'Brien Sacked?
     
  15. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    McNeil was probably a better back, and if you had to pick one for one game you'd probably go with him, but the question is "who had a better career as a Jet," and in that it's not even close. McNeil got hurt way too much; it's Martin by a landslide.
     
  16. WhiteShoeWillis

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    My opinion remains the same.
     
  17. Coach K

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    seriously? ill take consistency and toughness over flash.
     
  18. Italian Seafood

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    I'd say most of Curtis Martin's credentials for the Hall came as a Jet. He only played three seasons in New England, they were all good ones and he appeared in the Super Bowl, but most of his resume came as a Jet. Even that by itself is more steady then what McNeil gave us because he got hurt so much. Again, think about Johnny Hector, he had a whole productive career as a Jet in large part by playing when McNeil was hurt.
     
  19. Italian Seafood

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    Too many times because he held the ball too long. Look at Todd and Ryan who didn't take nearly as many sacks behind the same line. Also, run blocking and pass blocking of course are different.
     
  20. MadBacker Prime

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    Johnny Hector was tops in the league in 1987 for rushing TD's with 11.

    I loved watching him play as a kid-
     

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