An overlooked, but very important stat for the team

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  1. Gator

    Gator Active Member

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    Don't drop your hands Mark. Hahhaha. Joe Willy comes through again for us!
     
  2. kinggofg

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    Comepletely bogus stat.

    Fact: teams that are winning turn the ball over less than teams that are losing.

    Trying to come from behind is often what causes excessive turnovers in the first place. When you are leading you will play more conservative.

    Maybe if you looked at turnovers on the first drive and how that corrolates to a winning record. But I bet that turnovers on the first drive is completely random.
     
  3. jetsons

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    no thx, too many flags are just like a turnover...they kill momentum, they deflate the offense/defense, & they empower the opposition.
     
  4. Big Blocker

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    Heh, luckily it's not an either or choice.
     
  5. Danny@ATL

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    I'd take offensive penalties over defensive any day of the week.
     
  6. Red Menace

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    what has it done for the Chargers?
     
  7. twown

    twown Well-Known Member

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    turnover differential is NOT an overlooked stat.
     
  8. All Gas No Shake

    All Gas No Shake Well-Known Member

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    yea but the last two drives were ended with a drop by cotch on third down, followed by another drop by cotch on third down (where he had a ton of open space in front of him) and keller sleep walking out of bounds on fourth

    i dont think it was about the offense not having cahones, we just made too many mistakes to get into a rhythm

    plus baltimores D shits on miami/NE
     
  9. Hemi

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    Absolutely, the Jets achilles heel was turnovers last year. Particularly the Bills game. And that falls back to Sanchez. This year? no turnovers, two wins and a loss by a point.

    Turnovers and penalties are killers. Jets have cut down on turnovers, and just need to work on getting less penalties.
     
  10. Red Menace

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    That's the reason we lost to the bills, 6 turnovers in one game.
     
  11. pats-hater

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    Turnover ratio is huge, you can never overlook the stat.
     
  12. Jets-N-Terps

    Jets-N-Terps Well-Known Member

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    That's not an overlooked stat. You hear almost every announcer harp on that.
    You can't win the game when you lose the turnover battle.
     
  13. milo

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    Yeah there's no way Mark throws 20 picks again this season, and for sure not five in a game (they'll just pound the rock if it ever gets to three), but so far Sanchez has zero picks and four seriously close bullet-dodges (including two last week in the fourth quarter).

    Can't argue with the results so far but there's still plenty of mistakes to clean up.
     
  14. ScotsJet

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    Which QBs have played 3 games with no picks and no bullet-dodges this season?
     
  15. milo

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    Haha true, but I don't want Rex to have to burn his challenges on "almost picks" every game if he doesn't have to:)
     
  16. ScotsJet

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    True. That said, he wouldn't have to if the refs got the calls right in the first place.
     
  17. JCotchrocket

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    You're talking about intangibles. They make our team sad. They make the other team happy. They make it harder for us to score. They make it easier for the other team to score.

    But here's the thing: no flag- not even the really, really bad ones- can put points on the opponent's scoreboard. No flag can award the other team possession of the ball. For that reason, penalties will never be as bad as turnovers.

    Obviously, there are extenuating circumstances. A false start in the red zone with 5 seconds left in the game when we're down by 1 is significantly more detrimental than a fumble in a game we lead by 40. But the fact of the matter is we're currently 2nd in the league in penalties and 3rd in the league in penalty yards. We lead the division after the toughest stretch of games on our schedule.

    Why?

    Because we've turned the ball over less than anyone else in the NFL.

    That isn't a fluke.

    I posted these stats in a thread earlier in the year, but they're relevant to this discussion, I think:

     

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