What Should We Expect from Sanchez in Year Two?

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  1. DisgruntledLionFan

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    I like the under across the board. I'm guessing he ends up 17/15 or 16/14 and just a shade under on yards and comp%, too.
     
  2. discostu570

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    The thing is, look at the pieces around him. Especially once Santonio Holmes gets back. There really isn't a thing he could ask for. Franchise left tackle? Check. The NFL's most punishing running game, and one of NFL history's best halfbacks as a receiver out of the backfield? If Sanchez rises to the occasion, I could imagine Braylon Edwards putting together a ridiculous season, he's got the talent and everything I've heard is he's working hard this summer and looking ready for a big one. And if he happens to not like throwing to that big time wide receiver, he's got two more wideouts capable of big numbers. Everything is there, just waiting for him to grow to the point where he can use it.

    If Sanchez doesn't run at least a marginally competent offensive attack, what can he point to other than himself? What piece does this offense lack? We even have an incredible set of fullbacks, a guy who's a superbowl ring away from being as qualified as about any fullback I can think of for the Hall of Fame, and a rookie fullback who seems to be blowing everybody away on the coaching staff (how great is hard knocks for allowing us to actually know some things about the football team in August?)

    There are always bumps along the road, the Calvin Pace injury is an early reminder of that. Even there, though, the Jets appear to have been fortunate, with Ryan suggesting he could be back for Week 2. It'll be interesting to see when Pace starts running again. But unless this team faces a rash of equally serious injuries, there isn't any good reason they should struggle to stay in the playoff hunt, and there's also no reason the offense shouldn't at least carry it's weight.
     
  3. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    this is why you don't make the decisions.

    You bench a young player and his career is over. He'll never regain his confidence.

    And he didn't lose half those games. You need to remember who allowed what in the final seconds of those games, and who couldn't handle snaps or kick FGs.
     
  4. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    He lost the Saints and Bills, though he had help. The Atl game was stictly special teams, though they had help.

    That having been said....How can anyone not believe that this is a 13 win team this year.
     
  5. DJphinfan

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    Mark sanchez is a lot smaller than most think...His strength and frame is a weakness on the NFL level..also seems very immature to me, especially when you cant look another man in the eye when you are being critisized about how you don't accept criticism very well, I thought that moment should be of major concern for Jet fans.

    LT looks fantastic, so he has that to rely on combined with Greene.

    Dbrick in the preseason has looked a litttle nervous out there not playing next to fanaca..
     
  6. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Marty Schottenheimer on Hard Knocks had a pretty good quote... he said he considered a 2nd year QB playing at the same level as his rookie season to be a success. Sanchez was only looking at a limited playbook and didn't even know his line's blocking assignments most times.

    He's being inundated with a ton of information now, much more than they asked him to absorb in year one, and he's losing his poise because of it. He's going to take a step back in terms of performance, even if the stats don't reflect it.
     
  7. Miamipuck

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    ^^^^Edit: I obviously didn't know what Abyz would say as it took me about 15 minutes to compose this but we said basically the same thing^^^^



    I guess I will weigh in here.

    I think Sanchez is going to regress a little bit the first 8 games and progress moderate to significantly the last 8.

    This offseason they have thrown alot more at him. The coaches have put a ton on Sanchez's plate. They have challenged him to learn the nuances about protections, progressions, defenses and in general to really delve into and learn the offense.

    It is one thing to be able to do this in a classroom type setting. We see a lot of that on Hard knocks. It is a whole other ballgame remembering all of that info in a game setting and applying it real time while someone is trying to take your head off.

    Not that Sanchez is dumb or anything but I think he is going to struggle with the information overload. I think this is one aspect why the play of sophomore QB's kind of sinks a little. They are tasked with so much more responsibility. Much more is expected of them and the kid gloves kind of come off.

    With that said, I think Sanchez end of year #'s look something like 55-58% Comp.... 15-20td's 15-18 int's and like 2800-3300 passing yards.

    Although, I am not convinced Sanchez will ever be that elite Manning type QB, he certainly will not confused with that this year. I just hope that he can improve as the year progresses. If Sanchez doesn't kill the Jets early, this team should be really good by year end........... of course injuries notwithstanding.
     
    #47 Miamipuck, Sep 2, 2010
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  8. WhiteShoeWillis

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    I don't think anyone would have thought being too conservative would have been an issue.
     
  9. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    Funny how everyone can throw out numbers like 2,500 yards and say that would be fine without realizing you get to 2,500 yards over a 16 game season by having some games where you look like shit.
     
  10. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    We should expect a new OC soon?


    At least he's still 1:1 on the ratio.
     
  11. Br4d

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    Yes, this is right.

    The comparisons for Sanchez are probably Troy Aikman, John Elway, Eli Manning, Terry Bradshaw (hard to compare between eras though), Richard Todd, Ryan Leaf, Archie Manning, Vinny Testaverde and a few others. This is the list of QB's drafted to start as a rookie franchise QB who had a little bit of trouble getting off the ground, mainly due to interceptions in their first season.

    There's some real success on that list and some real failure and some people down the middle. We still don't know how Sanchez will compare but trying to match him up against people like Roethlisberger, Flacco and Ryan is an exercise in failure at the moment because none of those 3 guys had anywhere near as much difficulty as Sanchez did as a rookie. Expecting him to be where they were on year 2 is highly unreasonable given that basic fact. He really belongs with the group above, the guys who got a lot of on the job experience while they were figuring out how to play QB instead of just rolling out of bed good to go.
     
  12. HardHitta

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    I Doubt Sanchez throws for 3000 yards and 16 TD's. More like 2500 Yards and 12-13 TD's.
     
  13. Mehl-56

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    At this rate he's lucky to get to 2000
     
  14. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    After week one last year Sanchez was on pace to throw for over 4,000 yards. Making any assumption about how the rest of the year will go based on week one is not a good idea.
     

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