Wilson vs hayden (contracts)

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  1. bigcotch

    bigcotch Banned

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    I just checked out the deals signed by this years first round picks, and they are absolutely ridiculous.

    Comparing the two salaries, there isn't one Jet fan who would trade Kyle Wilson for Joe Hayden now. I probably wouldn't trade them if they were making the same money for that matter, but take a look.

    7. Joe Haden CB Cleveland Signed Five years, $50M million ($26M guaranteed)
    29. Kyle Wilson CB N.Y. Jets Signed Five years, $13 million ($7M guaranteed)


    Hayden is getting 10 Mil a year... No wonder Revis is bitching.
     
  2. MadBacker Prime

    MadBacker Prime THE Dead Rabbit

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    Yup, that's what happens when you're almost the last pick of the first round and a deep CB draft too.
     
  3. bigcotch

    bigcotch Banned

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    Picking in the Top 10 is an absolute curse right now. I would honestly rather have Wilson at his salary than any of the players in the top 10 at their salaries. It's insane! Hopefully this is all worked out for next season.
     
  4. fozzi58

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    Please get the CBA done with a rookie salary cap...
     
  5. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    This. This. A thousand fucking times, this.
     
  6. bigcotch

    bigcotch Banned

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    To be honest, I doubt we will be picking anywhere near the top 10 in the near future...
    It may be in our best interest that these top ten picks keep breaking the bank, setting teams back for years! :)
     
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    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    Please see my previous post!:up:
     
  8. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    That does suck for Revis negotiating. At Hayden's rate, that means Revis is due 5 years, $200 million and $104 million guarenteed. :lol: :eek:hmy::shit:
     
  9. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Source-NFL-disapproves-Bradford-McCoy-and-Wilson-deals.html

    The NFL has disapproved the recently-signed contracts for first-round draft picks Sam Bradford, Gerald McCoy and Kyle Wilson, according to a league source with knowledge of the situation.

    This doesn't invalidate the entire negotiation, but is typically an indicator that some contract language needs to be tweaked before it's processed by the league office.

    While those adjustments are made between the teams and the players' representatives, the player is still allowed to continue practicing.

    According to several agents, negotiating first-round and second-round deals became more complex this year because of the potential lockout in 2011 with the labor strife surrounding the league.

    This also happened with New Orleans Saints first-round cornerback Patrick Robinson's deal.

    Bradford was drafted first overall by the St. Louis Rams. McCoy was drafted third overall pick by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And Wilson was the 29th overall pick with the New York Jets.
     
  10. Leicester Jet

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    Another crap team - Cleveland this time - paying over the odds for a CB.
    He'll never win anything there but he'll be a rich man - with lost of spare time after the regular season
     
  11. surviveone

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    Cleveland Browns' rookie Joe Haden puts worries behind

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/08/cleveland_browns_rookie_joe_ha.html


    If getting $26 million in guaranteed money from the Browns was not proof enough that the team wants him, rookie Joe Haden has taken comfort from a talk with defensive coordinator Rob Ryan.
    Browns defensive coordinator Rob Ryan put top pick Joe Haden's mind at ease regarding the Kyle Wilson controversy -- specifically, reports that Ryan wanted to draft the Boise State cornerback instead of Haden.

    Wilson was selected No. 29 by Ryan's twin brother, Jets coach Rex Ryan. Haden, a Florida star who signed his five- year, $50 million contract Saturday night and practiced for the first time Sunday, went No. 7 overall to the Browns.

    During Jets minicamp the week after the draft, Rex Ryan told reporters: "There is somebody that I really know well for a long time that basically said that he was their guy, and they picked a lot earlier than us.
    "You can probably figure it out. That's who he wanted, and then after practice, I'm like, 'Yep. I guarantee you were right because this guy is the real deal.' "
    A source in New York confirmed Rex was talking about Rob. But Rob wasted no time assuring his new cornerback that he was wanted by the Browns all along.
    "Coach Ryan came up to me during rookie camp," Haden said. "He was like, 'Joe, I worked out Kyle Wilson, and I said he was the best defensive back I worked out. I said that because I didn't work you out. [Defensive backs coach] Jerome Henderson worked you out and some other defensive backs, and you were the best DB he worked out.'
    Cleveland Browns top draft pick Joe Haden signs contract and practices

    "He was like, 'Joe, don't worry about that. It was nothing like that. We're so glad you're here,' and all of that stuff. cleared it up for me and made it a whole lot better. I don't care what everybody else says. Coach just told me exactly what happened."
    It was the second of three times in his months-old pro career that Haden has been blindsided by adversity.
    The first came during the NFL Combine in February, when Haden ran a disappointing 4.57 and 4.60 in the 40-yard dash. Many experts predicted he would fall out of the top 10. But Haden's father and trainer, Joe Sr., revealed Haden was suffering from lower back pain and shouldn't have run at the Combine. He rebounded at his Pro Day, clocking between 4.39 and 4.42. He also ran well for Henderson when he traveled to Maryland to work him out individually.
    "Before that happened at the Combine, I always had everything laid out for me all the time," Haden said. "I never really had any controversy or any real struggles. After the Combine, when I ran slow -- and I know I'm fast -- man, it was crazy. I just realized how many people are on your side one second, and as soon as something happens, it feels like the world came crashing in."
    The third instance came last month when former Browns General Manager Mike Lombardi, an analyst for NFL Network and a harsh Mangini critic, wrote on NFL.com that "coaches around the league" say Haden struggled at minicamp and may be too slow to play cornerback in the NFL.
    "I'm not even worried about that," said Haden. "He's not here or in this inner circle. He's not my coach. I talk to my coach [Henderson] all the time, and he tells me, 'Joe, just compete, Get better. You just have to understand the playbook, and you're going to be perfectly fine.' He said one of the hardest positions to come in and play other than quarterback is cornerback. It's not just about ability. You have to understand the game."
    Haden admitted after minicamp that he wasn't playing as fast as he'd like because he still was processing all the new information. So he spent the past six weeks poring over his playbook.
    "As long as I know what's going on, I can play full speed," he said. "If you're out there reacting, you'll get beat. I feel like [Sunday] I did a whole lot better than the last time I was on the field. I felt a whole lot faster, and my legs felt fresh."
    Browns coach Eric Mangini said all the rookies played slowly in minicamp, "but he's a good person, he's a smart kid, he's a hard-working kid. Those things will serve him well to get caught up."

    Joe Haden is a happy camper on his first day of practice as a Cleveland Brown.
    Mangini made no promises that his $50 million man will be a starter on opening day, the way Darrelle Revis, his Jets cornerback, was as a rookie.
    "Everybody's different," said Mangini. "Revis is Revis, and Joe is Joe. He'll get opportunities, and we just really have to see how it plays out. I like to think that he'll be as competitive as he possibly can be."
    He said Haden, who broke up a few passes Sunday and gave up a few others, might start some games and not others depending on the opponent.
    "With as many multiple-receiver teams that we face, we need to be able to play three, four cornerbacks in different spots," said Mangini. "He'll get plenty of chances to show what he can do."
    In the meantime, Haden is looking at all this controversy as a blessing.
    "You know who's got your back when you go through adversity," he said.
     
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  12. surviveone

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    Non-issue.

     
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    I must've missed something. Why has Kyle Wilson's contract been singled out by the NFL? It looks in line with all the other draft picks.
     
  14. Doogstein

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    They are saying that some of the language needs to be reworded to make it more friendly for the possible lockout. It's a minor issue that will be corrected promptly by all teams involved.
     
  15. AbdulSalam

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    who cares about that? nice avatar.
     
  16. bigcotch

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    Kyle Wilsons brother just responded to my thread. That basically means I'm famous now.

    Good luck to the K-Man
     
  17. JfaulkNYJ

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    So where did you want your younger brother to end up Cleveland, or new york?:smile:
     
  18. HardHitta

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    An Wilson is going to be 2x the better player.
     
  19. MadBacker Prime

    MadBacker Prime THE Dead Rabbit

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    Might as well plan for a holdout next year then. lol
     
  20. surviveone

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    KDUB aka I-20

    It really didn't matter...just wanted him to get an opportunity to play the game he loves..But, we are extremely happy with the way things worked out.


     

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