Revis, Ferguson sack report of new deals

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  1. jtrain

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    Despite their apparent leak to the contrary, the Jets are no closer to signing Darrelle Revis or D'Brickashaw Ferguson to new contracts according to Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post.

    A Newsday report yesterday claimed the Jets were prepared to end their ugly contract impasse with Revis by adding six years to the disgruntled cornerback's contract that would make the total deal worth $100 million.



    But Revis laughed off that report to friends, pointing out that NFL contracts are not guaranteed and that the only thing that matters -- at least in pro football negotiations -- is money paid up front in the form of bonuses and other guarantees.



    Under the league's current system, the Jets could cut Revis before any of the six years kicks in, rendering the $100 million figure meaningless.

    People close to Revis said he considers the Jets to be the source of that leaked report and that he feels it was yet another attempt by the team to make itself look good while making Revis appear greedy.

    The Jets denied leaking the information, releasing a statement last night that said, "Throughout these negotiations, we have expressed our appreciation and respect for Darrelle as a player and a person, as well as our commitment to finding a resolution that works for both sides."



    The agent for Ferguson, meanwhile, took issue with the same report because it said the offensive tackle was on the verge of a long-term extension with the Jets that could be reached before training camp starts Aug. 2 "barring unexpected complications."

    That was news to agent Brad Blank, who appeared to doubt a deal could get done that quickly considering he has yet to receive a contract proposal from Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum.

    "It's hard to say that [you could get a deal done by camp] when you've never exchanged proposals and don't even know if you're in the same ballpark," Blank told The Post yesterday. "We haven't heard anything from the Jets."
     
  2. hellasx44

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    yea i read that article it made sense and sounds like a good deal, but revis' rebuttal made alotta sense too
     
  3. Jets n Boys

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    Great new stuff here. If we make thread for every article, this place would be full of Revis Islands.
     
  4. Steve032

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    Yeah this article just uses what Hubbach said 2 days ago.
     
  5. Barry the Baptist

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    Wow this Revis thing could get ugly....
     
  6. JfaulkNYJ

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    why in the hell arent the jets including guaranteed money in his fucking deal? he isnt going to do shit without that.
     
  7. IEightOne

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    From what I've gathered, Revis is scared of not being worth his contract 3 years from now. The Jets are most likely including some guaranteed money but he just wants more in case they would cut him. Why would the best CB in the game ever be worried about getting cut though? It's just silly to me
     
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    hey dustin keller!
    :grin:
     
  9. Hennessy2710

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    Wow your first post and it was really bad. Why would he want more guaranteed money and why would he be afraid of getting cut?? Hmm maybe he could be injured and then dropped real quick.

    Do not pay this man anything more then 13 million a year
     
  10. Br4d

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    In order:

    1. If this gets really ugly with Revis that's all on him and his camp. That would make his value to the Jets substantially less than what he puts out on the field.

    2. Revis is very likely worried about what would happen in future years without guarantees. There's no question that the NFL considers contracts to bind players and not teams. There's an open question as to whether this is a viable long-term strategy given the guarantees prevalent in every other major sport.

    2a. If Darrelle Revis signed a 16 million a year contract with no guarantees and only moderate upfront money and then nobody came close to matching it over the next few seasons the Jets would very likely threaten to cut him if he did not renegotiate it down to the appropriate scale.

    2b. If Darrelle Revis signed that contract and then a strict salary cap was imposed the Jets would certainly cut him first if cap problems arose. This is the worst case scenario for the Jets because if Revis will not accept a cut they ultimately lose him for very little compensation.

    3. Darrelle Revis has 3 years left on a binding contract. Ultimately the Jets can always just back away from the negotiating table (a table they should never have approached at this point) and let things fall where they may.

    Yes, this could get very ugly but I doubt that it will. Revis isn't going to get 16 million a year and any kind of guarantees associated with it. He might get 10 million a year with a bunch of guaranteed money but that's about the limit. He's not going to hold out in a way that binds him to the Jets beyond 2012 because he has no way to guarantee he can win that holdout. He's very unlikely to act out on the field because that would severely damage his chances at actually getting a large contract from anybody moving forward.

    Assuming that the Jets really think they can't resolve this they have to trade Revis when they think his value is highest, which would be this summer/early fall when he is still locked up for 3 years at a reasonable average.
     
  11. TommyGreen

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    Are you kidding? NFL players get royally screwed if they get injured or if they have one bad year. He wants his guaranteed money because that $100 million means nothing to him unless he plays it all out. After the Leon injury, elite players are going to want as much up front cash as possible. Hell, I would too.

    If your company offered you two options, up front salary of $50k, or $80k if you last the entire year, which would you choose? Keep in mind that an NFL player risks serious injury during games, trainings, as well as day to day activities.
     
  12. Jetfanmack

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    Don't necessarily agree. He's in his third year in the league. If he's as good as we all think he is, he should be able to be elite the next year or two. His value might be higher now, but I'd rather get two years cheap out of Revis and then trade him if that's what we had to do, even if we got slightly less back.

    If it gets so ugly that he stops playing hard, then we have a problem.
     
  13. Br4d

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    I think the Jets also have a problem if Revis keeps playing hard but the issue won't go away in the locker room or the press (who will hype it for all it's worth in terms of selling papers/ad time.)

    The problem the Jets have here is not an easy one to deal with. They have a player demanding to be paid at an unreasonable rate and doing so at a time when his only leverage is provided by how much he acts out in the process. The problem is further complicated by the fact that his agents have an axe to grind with Mike Tannenbaum over the treatment other clients of theirs received from the Jets. The problem is then worsened by the uncertainties hanging over the macro-economics of football in general at this point, with the labor situation a huge variable and the next TV contract also looming.

    I'd love to see a resolution of this that works well for both sides but I highly doubt that's possible given the conflicting goals in play. If one side or the other has to "lose" to make things work out then I'm obviously rooting for the Jets and not Revis. I don't think the NY Revises are going to get me a Lombardi trophy any time soon.
     
  14. Quinnenthebeast

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    I agree, the macroeconomics dictates otherwise; the revenues just aren't there. The league, and to a greater extent, the economy is struggling. Football is about greed pure and simple. Both players and owners ignore the real signs of financial life outside of football and act like their market prices for tickets, salaries, etc never goes down. The NFL is so out of touch with reality.

    Also Revis is amazing, so why would he be scared that in three years he won't be worth his contract? He would be like 27/28 years old by then. If he starts declining by that age, I don't think he would be worth a 6 or 7 year deal. Basically he's saying pay me ridiculous money, even though I have had one year as top cornerback in the NFL. I'm all for showing loyalty to him, but the league will either fall apart into a lockout (waste of money) or go back to a salary cap (we can't afford Revis with such a high salary). I don't know what he expects the Jets to do...
     
  15. Hennessy2710

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    brick is going to have a real good year for us i believe
     

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