FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- New York Jets center Nick Mangold, who said last week there was a 50/50 chance he would skip the team's mandatory minicamp because he's unhappy with his contract, reported Monday morning for the start of the three-day camp. Mangold, a two-time Pro Bowl selection, is due to make $3.3 million in the final year of his rookie contract. As of late last week, the Jets hadn't made an offer, according to Mangold. "We'll put it at 50/50 you never know," Mangold said last Thursday. "Got to get through the weekend and make our decision on Sunday." The Jets are also negotiating with cornerback Darrelle Revis, who wants to be the highest paid at his position in the NFL.
I'm guessing that Mangold's agent told him to threaten to hold out and '50/50' is as hard line as he has gotten so far.
without a doubt, he loves it here and he knows he will get a good deal...its def coming, not to mention he wont want absurds amounts of money....
i don't know if you can say he is more important thats a lil crazy...they are both the best at their positions, but great corners dont come around so often i think it would be harder to find a replacement as good as revis than to repace mangold, but i love em both
I am not sure I would say Mangold is more important than Revis, but I would certainly not say Revis is more important. Funny how one is on the line and the other in the backfield, but both seem equally important to their respective squads.
Center is a more important position than cornerback. At cornerback an average player might cost you a few plays a year that a good one wouldn't have blown and the good one might cost you a few more plays that a great one would have managed, but the overall damage is manageable. If you have a bad cornerback then you're screwed because he's going to get beaten like a drum and cost you games you'd otherwise have won, but the difference between good and great is fairly negligible although occasionally stark when it shows up at the wrong time. An average center on the other hand is going to have a good 40 plays a game where his abilities are tested. If he proves out at an 80% rate, which is pretty good, he's cost you advantage on 8 plays in just one game. If you go up to a good center who is 90% successful you cut the number of disadvantage plays in half to just 4, but those 4 are still a big deal. Now go to a great center like Mangold who maybe is a 98 or 99 on the scale and he's making 6 or 7 plays a game that the average center can't and he's doing it right in the middle of the offense as the very first line of protection for the QB, since a bull rush up the middle is the fastest way to get to the QB, and as the most important block on almost every running play between the tackles. We're spoiled as Jet's fans because we've grown accustomed to great play at the center position. We've arguably had the best center in football for all but a few years of the last decade and so we discount the position in our view of what's valuable.
Center is one of the most important positions in football. Revis & Mangold are both elite players. I'll take the center over the corner any day of the week.
i disagree, i think revis' vorp is higher than anyone on this team, with d'brick a close second to me, an elite corner is more important than an elite center because they are much harder to find
We know the value of having 1 elite CB thanks to last year. We don't know the value of not having an elite C because we have a stone wall in Mnagold.
And Mawae before that. But I do agree with the notion that it is easier to find a very good C than a very good/Elite CB. Players like Revis barely come around, and with a Defensive scheme that is essentially built backwards we need him in our backfield.
If centers are more valuable than corners, it's a surprise to NFL GMs. Only a handful of centers (Faine, Brown) are paid more than 4million a year, and they're in the 6-7 million a year range. Very few centers are picked in the first few rounds of the draft. Teams are usually comfortable grabbing a middle round guy and developing him over years. Corners, on the other hand, get picked in droves in rounds one and two, frequently get paid the 6-7 million bucks a year, and sometimes make over 10 million a year.
and also you need 2 or 3 of them on your team... you just need 1 center and you're done. Supply vs Demand.
