fyi : supplemental draft - 7/13/06 . . .

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  1. kelly

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    Brandt's supplemental draft primer
    By Gil Brandt / NFL.com Senior Analyst

    (May 18, 2006) -- For those of you experiencing a little post-NFL Draft withdrawal, there's good news: The 2006 Supplemental Draft is just around the corner.

    The supplemental draft gives players like Ahmad Brooks of Virginia a shot at making the pros.This years' supplemental draft is tentatively scheduled for July 13. Rules of the supplemental draft stipulate that it has to take place at least 10 days prior to opening of the first training camp.Draft order is determined by a weighted system that is divided into three groupings. First come the teams that had six or fewer wins last season, followed by non-playoff teams that had more than six wins, followed by the 12 playoff teams.

    The first time the supplemental draft came into play was in 1977, when Al Hunter, a running back from Notre Dame, was selected in the fourth round by the Seattle Seahawks.Of course, in order for a team to select someone, it must have that choice available in the following year's regular draft -- and that's the pick it will give up to make the supplemental pick.

    5/23 Update on Brooks
    Brooks is tentatively scheduled to hold a workout for pro scouts at noon on June 22 at the University of Virginia. Cavaliers head coach Al Groh, along with Brooks' position coach and trainer, will be on hand to talk to the NFL personnel guys before the workout.Brooks has been training in Atlanta with Chip Smith. As of yesterday, his weight was 274 -- he has a target weight of 265 for the workout. Brooks, who played linebacker in college but might project as a Julius Peppers-type defensive end in the pros, missed six games with a right knee injury last year.

    Brooks' father, Perry Brooks was a defensive tackle who was drafted in the seventh round by the Patriots in 1976. He never played for New England but played 92 games for the Washington Redskins.Some of the names you may recall that have been selected in supplemental drafts through the years include linebacker Brian Bosworth, a first-round pick of the Seahawks in 1987; Washington State QB Timm Rosenbach, taken by the Cardinals in 1989; Miami QB Steve Walsh, also taken in 1989 by the Dallas Cowboys; and Duke QB Dave Brown, who was selected by the Giants in 1992.

    More recently, San Diego defensive tackle Jamal Williams was a second-round supplemental pick in 1998, and he's become a terrific run-stuffer for the Chargers.

    The paperwork hasn't officially been filed yet for this year's supplemental draft, but there are at least two players who will get a close look from scouts around the league:

    Ahmad Brooks, LB, Virginia: A national defensive player of the year coming out of high school, Brooks had an outstanding 2004 season for the Cavaliers in 2004, but got hurt last year.

    Jason Berryman, DE, Iowa State: At about 240 pounds, he's probably a linebacker in a 3-4 scheme. His Pro Day is already set for June 6 at Iowa State, and we'll have reports on that.

    Of course, NFL.com will have news on these and other players who file for the supplemental draft, so rest easy. There's more draft analysis on the way!

    > http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9447397
     
  2. wildthing202

    wildthing202 Active Member

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    and the Jets are involved how?
     
  3. Nesquik

    Nesquik Well-Known Member

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    We should pick up both too bad it wont happen
     
  4. hammer

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    What makes a player eligable for the supp draft, and why not the regualr draft?
     
  5. Cakes

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    Players in Supplemental Drafts are those who did not enter the regular draft in April because they have some sort of college eligibility issues. They may have thought they were still eligible to play college football later that year and then a few months later they find out they are ineligible. Almost always there is an academic or disciplinary problem and the player cannot go back to college football, so he enters the NFL Supplemental Draft.

    In the 2006 Supplemental Draft, the same draft order applies as in the regular April draft. The Jets will be 4th again. They do not have to bid on Jason Berryman or Ahmad Brooks. They can just say to heck with both of them.

    For argument's sake, let's suppose the Jets want Brooks. The Jets might decide he's worth a 4th rounder. The Jets would submit a 4th round bid to the commissioner. If no other team places a better bid, the Jets would be awarded Brooks. The Jets would then lose their 2007 4th round selection.

    A couple examples-
    RB Tony Hollings was taken by the Houston Texans in the second round of the Supplemental Draft in 2003. In the 2004 NFL Draft, the Texans forfeited a second round pick.

    The Jets selected WR Rob Moore from Syracuse in the first round of the 1990 Supplemental Draft. Therefore, the Jets forfeited their 1991 first round draft selection.
     
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    Both are tweener pass rushers that would fit nicely in a 3-4 defense. I'd like to see us go with Thomas and Barton this season personally, but putting a mid round bid on one of these guys couldn't hurt.
     
  7. Nesquik

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    Brooks is someone I see being a 3rd
    Berryman probably 4th or 5th
    Hopefully Tangini surprises us and takes atleast one cause in 3-4 u could never have enough linebackers.
     
  8. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Brooks has 1st round talent and I think he'll go in the 2nd or 3rd round.
     
  9. Coach K

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    IF WE DONT TAKE HIM IN THE 2nd or 3rd I AGREE SOMEONE ELSE WILL


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    I'd take Brooks with a 3rd Rder.hes big fast and an all around solid player,in this picture i think hes even under 260 so if he reached his target weight of 265 he would definitely be someone capable of being a 4-3 end or a 3-4 OLB. probably better as an OLB in a 3-4 but I've seen him enough to know hes a solid player worth taking a look at. I dont remember what his exact eligibility issue was but I hope the FO at least entertains the thought
     
  10. Br4d

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    Well, it's kind of nice to have that extra second rounder next year. Gives the Jets the ability to think seriously about making a 2nd or 3rd round bid on Brooks or maybe a 4th round bid on Perryman.
     
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    so whats the chance of us getting brooks???
     
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    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    With the extra 2nd rounder in 2007 maybe the Jets should seriously consider Brooks. He is a big talent. It depends how much this new regime wants to stick with this high character player stuff.

    Maybe it will come down to how high Brooks scored/scores on the Wonderlic.
     
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    i thought he is entering the supp. draft...
     
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    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Exactly.

    If the Jets use a 2nd round pick on Brooks in July they would lose their 2nd round pick in 2007.
     
  15. JetTerp

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    It will come down to character and system....although he played for Groh at UVA so he MIGHT fit that mold. Might not be a bad gamble to take.
     
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    ew, since we are likely picking high in next years draft, no way would i go with a 2nd, if we even submitted a pick for him, id much rather have it be 3 or later...
     
  17. kbgreen

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    I think the FO will set a value on both players and offer a pick matching that value. Much like the Schlegel pick in the 3rd this year. The FO felt he is worth a 3rd round pick. I have read alot of people on here slamming the FO for picking him so high but for me I like it that the FO doesn't seem swayed by public opinion.

    I am just trying to avoid making judgements on the FO until we see how their chioces workout. I do like what I see so far, Calling Alanta's bluff and insisting on a first rounder for Abe was important. It show us that this FO won't be pushed around like the last one.
     
  18. Jonathan_Vilma

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    Brooks doesn't have much of a position with us. He plays the same role that Vilma plays in the 3-4. And I don't think he's ever played in a 4-3.
     
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    He's projected to be moved to the end position, which is something he could excel at with his talent.

    We have 2 2nds next season, I'd love to see us use one on him cause like has been said, had he been able to play out his college career, he's likely a first round pick.

    With that said, I doubt the FO takes a chance.
     
  20. Nesquik

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    He is big so he at 265 he should move to olb in a 3-4.
     

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