Carrier's Quite Familiar with Ryan Philosophy - Lange, NYJ.com

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  1. abyzmul

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    Carrier's Quite Familiar with Ryan Philosophy

    Published: 02-18-10
    By Randy Lange
    Editor-in-Chief


    Mark Carrier never had much intersection with the Jets during his distinguished 11-year playing career. But you could almost say it's in a grandfather clause somewhere that he would come to the Green & White for a spell.

    Or more accurately, a father clause. As in Rex Ryan's dad, Buddy.

    "Buddy had left the Bears after '85 and I didn't come in till '90," Carrier, the Jets' new defensive line coach, told newyorkjets.com this week from his office at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center. "But we ran a lot of the same defense, and there were a lot of holdovers on that defense, a lot of guys who were still big supporters of Buddy Ryan.

    "That group was the one that broke me in, the group I cut my teeth with understanding how to play this game."

    Carrier took a bite out of the NFL as the sixth pick of the 1990 draft, racking up a league-leading 10 interceptions, five forced fumbles and 122 tackles from his free safety spot. Those figures, which wound up being career highs, led to the first of his three Pro Bowl invitations.

    After spending all 11 playing seasons on NFC teams and then leaving the pros to do some electronic media work, including a stint as the pre- and postgame host on the USC Football Radio Network, he came back to the NFL as an assistant coach. This time it was an AFC team, the Baltimore Ravens. And he returned at the urging of a fellow Southern Cal alum, Dennis Thurman, and Buddy's son, Rex.

    "Rex allows you and helps you to develop to become a coach, become a better coach," said Carrier, who coached on Ryan's defense for three years before Rex got the Jets job 13 months ago. "He sets the guidelines down — this is what is expected of you — but he allows you to be you, he wants your personality to come out.

    "What you love about Rex and the staff is that with all that bravado, there's a lot of teaching going on. I said that when I was with the Ravens after my first year. Those guys, as good a defense as they were, they were the most technically sound group I'd ever been around."

    Last month, Carrier was the secondary coach on the vaunted Ravens defense that disposed of the Patriots in the AFC Wild Card Round before being stymied by Peyton Manning and the Colts in the divisional round. And once his team was out of the playoffs, he found another team to admire in the other half of the American Conference bracket.

    "The Jets' success this year didn't surprise me, not at all," he said. "When we ended up losing to Indy, I have no problem saying I was one of the Jets' biggest supporters, hoping they could do it. You like to see good people have success. If it's not you, why not them?"

    And now he's no longer a "them," he's an "us." With a coaching opening on the D-line, Ryan picked up the phone and Carrier answered the call. And here's something to make your head spin: He's now filling the same role that Buddy Ryan filled in his first NFL assistant coaching job on Weeb Ewbank's Super Bowl III-to-be staff in 1968.

    Some fans have asked about the transition from a lifelong DB and DBs coach to coaching the Jets' DL. Carrier's not concerned and neither is Ryan. For one thing, coaches change positions all the time. It's perhaps a little more common on offense, but defensive coaches add new positions to their résumés as well.

    "It's not unknown," Carrier said. "This helps me down the road to get better in my game."

    Another point is that Carrier said he's been around "two of the best D-line coaches there are." One is Clarence Brooks, whom he worked with the past four seasons in Baltimore. The other is Rex Ryan. Mike Pettine also has had a DL specialization. Jeff Weeks, who took over the position the second half of this past season, remains on the staff. The support net is wide and strong.

    But ultimately, Carrier said, the most important part of this conversion is in having the philosophy of the defense, the philosophy of "playing like a Jet," already in his football DNA.

    "It's not like you're putting in somebody who doesn't understand what it takes and how to play," the Jets' newest coach said. "From the moment I stepped in with the Ravens, with Rex and those guys, it was we don't talk about anything but being the best, and working to be the best — we expect it. Ever since then, that's been my mindset, how I think and how I prepare the players to match that criteria."

    We'll bring you a few more recollections from Carrier, from one of the two games he played against the Jets in the Nineties, in an item on the Radar on Friday.
     
  2. SyracuseJet

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    Maybe I missed this, but why is a former Pro Bowl DB, who's only been a DB Coach, being brought in as our DL coach?
     
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    Some fans have asked about the transition from a lifelong DB and DBs coach to coaching the Jets' DL. Carrier's not concerned and neither is Ryan. For one thing, coaches change positions all the time. It's perhaps a little more common on offense, but defensive coaches add new positions to their résumés as well.

    "It's not unknown," Carrier said. "This helps me down the road to get better in my game."

    Another point is that Carrier said he's been around "two of the best D-line coaches there are." One is Clarence Brooks, whom he worked with the past four seasons in Baltimore. The other is Rex Ryan. Mike Pettine also has had a DL specialization. Jeff Weeks, who took over the position the second half of this past season, remains on the staff. The support net is wide and strong.

    But ultimately, Carrier said, the most important part of this conversion is in having the philosophy of the defense, the philosophy of "playing like a Jet," already in his football DNA.

    "It's not like you're putting in somebody who doesn't understand what it takes and how to play," the Jets' newest coach said. "From the moment I stepped in with the Ravens, with Rex and those guys, it was we don't talk about anything but being the best, and working to be the best — we expect it. Ever since then, that's been my mindset, how I think and how I prepare the players to match that criteria."
     
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    They are looking to find ways i'm guessing to put more pressure on the QB with the DL, we were one of the worst team in generating sacks among the DL, Shaun Ellis had the majority of the sacks, maybe some new wrinkles will help
     
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    if anyone understands the need for a strong pass rush, it's a DB
     
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  7. NDmick

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    Bill Callahan was a QB all his life. He's way too small to be a former OL.

    He's an OL genius.

    Carrier knows football. He's Rex's guy. I'm confident.

    Also, Charlie Weis never played football in his life. Ever. Yet he is one of the best OCs of all time, and coached every position on the offense under Parcells' thumb with the Giants and Pats.
     
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    That's pretty much how I stand on it. Callahan transitioned well as an O-line coach because he was a QB.

    Carrier was, by all accounts, the QB of the defenses he played on, calling audibles, reading offensive looks and getting his guys in place. It's not a slam dunk as far as being a success, but I think it has a fair chance of succeeding.
     
  9. Coach K

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    yeah too many people worry about the fact DL Coach isnt anywhere on his resume. i guess people are assuming he doesnt watch the actual games he coaches or go over film/strategy with his co-workers. oh yeah and I guess having played at a high level in the NFL doesnt mean much either.

    as NDMick stated theres a solid amount of coaches who simply have a passion for the game and the eye for the strategy going on between 22 players on the field. and the two coaching staffs on the sidelines.

    furthermore you dont stay around in BAL if you dont know what your doing, especially on the defensive side. I also trust Rex's evaluation skills of what needs to be done.
     
  10. NDmick

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    Another example:

    Alex Gibbs - a RB/CB for Davidson University in North Carolina. Has coached the DBs at the college level in the 70s and 80s, then went on to coach the OL and become one of the best OL coaches in the game.

    He was a CB during his playing days.
     
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    i'm betting he's the heir apparent to the d.c. job when petitne gets a h.c. gig
     
  12. NDmick

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    Pettine's far, far away from that day.
     
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    one or two more seasons of a dominating defense coupled with some postseason success and he'll get a shot.
     
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    For some reason I keep reading this as Carrie's quite familiar with Rex.

    Strange.
     
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    Yeah but he is a DB. What does he know about the D-line? I mean what can he teach?
     
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    I'm a history teacher. Just because I was not George Washington, doesn't mean I can't teach about George Washington.
     
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    Bryan Cox has been a defensive line coach in the NFL, but he played the linebacker position.

    Jim Anderson is the Bengals running backs coach (or at least was this past season). He was a linebacker and defensive end in college.

    Yes, it does seem weird that a guy could play one position, but coach a different position.

    Carrier has been around the game long enough that he probably could do a decent job coaching linemen. I betcha he's going to get a lot of help, too, from Ryan and Pettine.
     
  18. Miamipuck

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    Cakes I was being sarcastic. I really do not think it matters the position of a player. If he is a good coach and can teach a general concept to a person, Carrier could have sold rubber dog shit in Indiana for all I care.

    Again, someones ability to teach simple concepts over rides experience. I have seen it time and again.

    This is what I was going for with my post:

     
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  19. gustoonarmy

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    Safeties often have to know exactly what every player on the D is doing, and I'm guessing here, but would think coaching the D line would alot more straight forward than coaching DBs .
    Its not like the guy was terrible, proper football player. :up:
     

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