There's been a bunch of threads talking about all sorts of matchups for the upcoming tilt with the Chargers. I'm surprised the coaching matchup hasn't been getting too much attention. I know Rex is a rookie HC...and maybe this sounds a little biased...but I would rather have Rex on the sideline than Norv Turner. I don't know how the Chargers lockeroom views Turner...but our lockeroom will take bullets for Rex Ryan....and that's huge when it comes to team unity. Turner is one of those coaches that makes a better coordinator, IMO....and I think he's out of his element in the playoffs.
Agreed. Norv has always been a coordinator, never a real HC. This year he is supposed to break out of his Coordinator stripes but now he has to face the Jets. Sorry, not this year Norv.
I've ripped on Norv a lot throughout his career, but he's coached the hell out of San Diego over the past 2 seasons. I suppose it's possible that working for Dan Snyder and Al Davis had more to do with his failures than his actual coaching.
I think this is actually a little unfair to Norv Turner. He has won 3 playoff games with the Chargers (including a win in INDY in the divisional round in 2007 with Billy Volek for most of the second half) and taken them to an AFC Championship game (a game they played very well in against the undefeated Pats - with an injured phillp rivers, antonio gates, ladanian Tomlinson, and banged up defense). Rex has done a great job but he's still a rookie head coach in his first year. I'm not saying Rex is at a disadvantage, I'm just saying that Norv Turner isn't the embarrassment everyone makes him out to be.
Actually...he is. LT quit on him last year in the playoffs....the Jets roster wouldn't do that to Rex.
I still perceive Turner to be a horrible head coach. Even if we lose Sunday it doesn't change that. He's fortunate enough to have a solid team.
where has Norv Turner been bad as a coach at? Oakland and Washington, two franchises that haven't been good for some time after him. perhaps Norv wasn't the problem at either team at all and the fact that he has been so good at SD should reveal that. the man is 4-2 in his career in the playoffs, with an AFC Championship game appearance. logic and reason should point in the direction that Norv Turner isn't a bad head coach and may actually be pretty good. at this point, I take Norv Turner in this game as an advantage over Rex.
by that logic, perhaps he was just plagued by awful teams at Oakland and Washington. if you are going to be logical, you have to be consistent, and thus you have to apply your criteria consistently in that the teams he has coached have performed to a certain ability independent of Norv Turner's influence on that. so, how can you claim he is awful when the logic of your argument should dismiss his influence and his teams lost because they were awful, not because he is awful. logic, it's not hard to do.
You have to admit...Turner was taking over a Chargers team that was 14-2 the previous season....it's not like he waved his magic wand and turned them into a powerhouse.
and they made it to the AFC Championship the very next year under him, so were arguably better than the year before. perhaps Norv was the difference between losing in the divisional round and making it to an AFC Championship with a QB with a torn ACL. he may not be the greatest of all time, but I think his success in SD and the failures in Oakland and Washington beyond his tenure clearly put his record in those other places in perspective, and it is those records that people are using to claim he is terrible in face of his success afterwards. fact is, he isn't a bad coach at all, and nobody has won at Washington and Oakland in some time, so the failures of those teams under him may not be entirely because of him. he certainly contributed, but he clearly isn't the disaster people want to make him out to be because those franchises are and have been a mess.
he also coaches in a division where you can start out 0-4 and still win the division....which is how i believe things worked out that year.
