THATS what i said in a earlier post give him the chad pennington playbook so he can get confident, but as always people disagree. reply to HEMI
I must have missed that post. I actually agree with this, I'm all for more confidence building routes and plays, with a few shots down the field. Those are the plays that keep the chains moving. The problem with Penny was that he just didn't have the ability to continually stretch the field like Sanchez does. So when people hear "give him the Penny playbook" they think back to Paul Hack and a dismal offense when in reality we'd be using the dinks/dunks to get him comfortable, and when he's ready to open it up, he'll be more calm and will be able to make the throws we drafted him for.
What scares me is that Sanchez is now the absolute last rated starting QB in entire NFL (Russell and Anderson are no longer starters): http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=PASSING&season=2009&seasonType=REG If we had a QB that was at least middle of the pack, we are probably leading the division right now and well into the play-off hunt. And for every Troi Aikman, who also sucked as a rookie, there are many Mirers or even worse players. I don't recall Ravens QB position being that bad last year with a mid first round pick rookie QB. For these of you who say it is too early to tell, I agree. But I am also very concerned Sanchez is THE worst starting QB in the NFL right now. I'll be honest with you, I expected him to be middle of the pack, maybe even closer to lower half, but not THE absolutel last. Not sure what everyone else was expecting, but things can't be much worse than being the worst rated starting QB in NFL.
Before yesterday's game, how many interceptions did Sanchez have? OK before yesterday he had 3 games for a total of 10 INTs. 5 coming in one game, 3 in another and 2 last week. 10. So yes you are right, his numbers were wrong, but the overall fact is it 10 of his 12 came in 3 games. That was the point. he's not consistently (except for lately) throwing picks. The bulk came in a short amount of games. There are you happy?
I answered this in a different thread. Sanchez has had picks in every game but four, those being the two Miami games, against a bad pass D, in the first NE game, a great game he unfortunately more than made up for yesterday, and in the Oakland game. He's thrown picks in six games. The median for starting Qb's in the league, many (most) of whom have more attempts than MS, is between 7 and 8. He has 16. That's a lot. It's the main reason the Jets are in the sad shape they are in. The argument that his ints are limited to a few bad games is not correct. Throwing a single pick in a game is not a good thing. It's worse than average. The suggestion that a game with a pick is some kind of baseline is not the case. MS is throwing all those picks behind a very good pass protecting OL. He may not know his receivers that well, but since they picked up Edwards I don't think it accurate to say he's now got below average receivers (although I did think Keller had a very rough patch there). It is inaccurate and misleading to suggest his problem with interceptions is limited or otherwise less significant than the actual numbers appear. In this case the stats don't lie. And I was correct that junc's info was wrong.
Da answer is Rex Ryan ego; he wants Mark Sanchez to be da model for rookie qb's, he is sick of hearing about wacko and matty "room temprature" as rookie qb models. He wants his own guy to be that model so they are trying to make mark do too much and the results are int instead of td's. Sanchez has more talent than wacko and Ryan combined but Rex and Schotty need to calm down with the complex plays (route). I live in Baltimore and if I here one more person say flacco was a better rookie qb than mark is I will literary punch that person. I SO FU(KING FRUSTRATED
yes you were correct that junc's info was wrong. Wear that badge proud, or something. He's a rookie trying to do a lot. What did you expect? I'm not going to bring up the first year of other QBs because it's pointless, but the fact that they have thrown so many automatically makes it less of a concern about who he really is. We won't know this year. There were more games that he put us in a position to win it either straight out or from behind, than there were games that we won despite him being out there. I think the facts you present are not facts, but more of an opinion based on numbers that you personally find unappealing. He's gone 4 games out of 10 without throwing a pick - 2 of which were the Miami games where the D and special teams gave up the points. He led them back and if the D holds, we win. None against NE and Oak. He threw one per game against Hou and Tenn. We won. What's to complain about? Buffalo, NO (the one you failed to list orginally), Jax, and Pats are all games where he threw for a high amount of picks. which is 14 right there. 14 out of 16, 10 games in over a span of 4 games. So we have a first year rookie that compiled most of his INTs in less than half of the games he's played. it's not nearly as bad as some of you want to make it out to be. The INTs don't concern me nearly as much as the fumbles. he shouldn't be in the position to throw 3, 4, or 5 picks in a game.
I really don't understand your point as having any merit. What I want to make the situation out to be is that Sanchez throws far too many interceptions. I think interceptions are bad. You think they are not as bad as fumbles. Well, fumbles recovered by the other team are certainly bad, but I don't think interceptions are somehow significantly less bad than fumbles. Not that I am unconcerned about his fumbles, btw... But basically saying we shouldn't be concerned about the interceptions is a point I cannot agree with.
It's to be expected. Yes it sucks, but what did you expect from a dude in his first starting year, which also happens to be his first year in the NFL?
everything is moving very fast for sanchez. the game will get slower with experince. look how lucky he was in the beginning. dropped int's swarming defense to bail out the sputtering offense. relax it will be better next year
Ah, yes. The virtues of experience. It occurs to me when people talk about experience, they like to think what they are referring to is the way that in going through something, in experiencing it, we are taking in what is going on, analyzing it, and thereby understanding it. In short experience means we know more about something than before. Presumably this means we will better know how to accomplish the same or similar task in the future. But that's not the only thing experience means. It also means that we through experience get used to it, can make it routine, not requiring conscious attention to every step in the process, allowing habit to take over in respect of some parts of the process while we can better focus on the points that we choose to. This other aspect of experience is frankly what troubles me so much about the current situation with Sanchez. In short there is such a thing as bad experience, and not just in the sense of having a bad experience. If you are learning how to ride a bike, and every time you get on it you fall over and hurt yourself, will repeating this pattern improve your ability? No. It merely is subconsciously making the point to yourself that you are not good at bike riding, that in fact you will at some point come to expect that getting on it again merely means your are likely to fall and hurt yourself again. It is not a simple case that more experience merely makes for more learning of a positive sort. Bad experiences can leave one in a worse position than before. My guess is that throwing four ints in a televised football game is a bad experience.
i was joking too. I still can't believe Aaron Rodgers fell that far. I do love your coach though. Singletary is my kind of guy.
I know it's too early to write him off at this point in his career, but I don't know. Those picks were pretty bad. I, for one, think he's stupid, and stupidity is not a good sign for a QB, if you ask me. I haven't seen those kind of interceptions since Ryan Leaf, and that isn't good company to be in. I hope I'm wrong, but you can't teach that kind of instinct when it comes to throwing a football in the NFL. I've seen quarterbacks come and go, and when the other teams discover a flaw about a player they exploit it and make it known to other teams so they do the same. God, I hope I'm wrong.
