what will it reflect, that NE is better than the Jets this year? Belichick is a better coach than Ryan? Brady is one of the best QBs in the league, the Pats are one of the best offenses in the league and capable of scoring on anybody? Sanchez is a rookie and may not be good enough to beat the Pats again, this time in their own stadium? news flash, we know that.
We know they are competitive for 3 qtrs JB. Ryan1.0 was bound to have a few bumps in the road. It was also destined to have moments like this one coming up on Sunday. The repeat game against Miami was another one of those "moments" and this team came up short in the 4th qtr. This team did another late game fold against Jax as well. Who do you look at for leadership at this point? It has to be Ryan. That's why I'm saying this game is important for both Ryan and the team overall. If this team gets its ass smoked, what does Ryan have left for motivation? Avoiding the firing squad comes to mind for some underachiervers on the roster..
this isn't defining at all we're 4-5 and take away about 5 plays and we're 9-0. we've been in every game with a rookie qb and rookie quarterback and a #1 wide reciever thats had 5 games of chemistry with the rookie qb. we lost 2 of our best players to injuries. no purging necessary, we have a very talented roster, one of the best. the best special teams coach in the league, maybe the best o-line coach, an o-coordinator who everyone in the league gives praise to, and a great defensive minded coach whose changed the attitude of the franchise. i'm certain that if we had this same team next year with added experience and chemistry, we'd be at least 12-4. add a pass rushing de and some depth, and were golden.
Nope JB, everyone already knew the Patriots were better than the Jets this season and Belichek at their present career points is the better HC than Ryan. This game is more about how the Jets play, not the result of the game. There are still more games after this to play before the Jets go home for '09 but if the pattern continues, that is playing 3 qtrs and folding late, you have to look at Ryan and Ryan has to look in the mirror.
I know this season has left a lot to be desired. But, I pray to all things football that we sweep the Pats this season. If we can come out of NE with a win, it will make this season that much better. I'll be a happy camper with a sweep over the Pats and a winning records (9-7 is fine). That's actually quite a statement for a rookie head coach. Not everybody is Sean Payton, or John Harbaugh their first year, especially in one of the top three divisions in the league.
I'm pretty sure he came into town more than 2 months ago. But anyway, we've been extremely competitive in every game except one (NO, with the 2 INT TDs). We haven't been getting our "ass smoked" every week. Sure, this team has not reached its full potential, but if we're being honest with ourselves then we know that potential will not likely be reached this season. It's almost as if Ryan would be better off if he didn't start 3-0.
Funny you should say that Badger. I think you're right. If this team had started perhaps 1-2, expectations would have been lowered.
They are competitive until crunch time in the 4th. This team certainly would be 7-2 or 8-1 if they only had to play 3 qtrs but that isn't the case is it.. On this upcoming Sunday, after all the Ryan histrionics this team still shits the bed? Ryan will have no choice but to seriously review his management techniques going forward towards '10. Finding ways to lose sadly is becoming the legacy of Ryan 1.0. He still has time to add a final chapter to the story. It starts on Sunday against the guy with the rings..
A blowout would be the worse case senario as it would signify perhaps that the team may not be responding to Ryan anymore and that ain't good long term.
Is the humidity that bad down there? Did I say Rex is losing the lockerroom? Read and understand what I posted before you start rolling on the floor laughing..
Playing 60 minutes has more to do with a lack of quality depth. You could make the argument, credibly, that superior coaching would save a couple surprises for the last couple minutes, and I would like to see that....but they've done a good job, with predictable, if regrettable and avoidable bumps.
I find it hard to see anything defining about this game in terms of Rex Ryan as a head coach. Realistically the Jets have a very, very small chance at playoffs this season and there are a very small percentage of people who expect the Jets to win this game. All the talk about Rex "unraveling" is from media and fans who are buying into or selling a soap opera. If you listen to his press conference today you'll see he's the same guy he was at the beginning of the season, just in a different circumstance. I don't necessarily buy that his crying in a meeting was a motivational tactic. My opinion is that it was just Rex being Rex. Clearly he's a very emotional guy who wears those emotions on his sleeve. If the Jets win this week there shot at the playoffs increases by a very small margin considering they still have to face Atlanta, Indy, and Cinci. If they lose, that just further cements the unfortunate reality of no playoffs for the Jets in '09.
Let's get real here: the odds on the Jets going into New England and upsetting the Pats right now are really low. If it happens it'll be great but if Ryan's Jets can't beat the Pats on Sunday it's not because of him. It's because they're just not remotely as good a team right now as the Pats. If they get blown out badly, then yes I could see this be a defining game. If the Pats hang a 49-7 on them Ryan is probably gone after next season because it's hard to see how he holds the team together down the stretch after going 1-6 over the last 7 and coming off a crushing loss to the Pats. The Jets probably collapse totally at that point and Ryan gets his 2nd year in if Tannenbaum survives the collapse. I expect the Jets will lose by a non-blowout margin, more like 30-17 or something like that.
I don't think Rex realized that all his bravado put a big heap of pressure on both him and his new team. He meant well but he didn't realize how it would effect his team in a time of crisis and he didn't take into account how his rookie QB would deal with something foreign to him,ADVERSITY. I think he should just continue to follow his plan and be himself, and hopefully it'll all work itself out.
I just see rex as the guy who flips over the chess board. Football is a game of chess now and as much as you scream and yell, you have to make the right moves. Rex needs focus not bravado to win.
There are a lot of things going on beyond Rex's control. The loss of Jenkins pretty much forced him to run a vanilla defense and took away what made our team elite in the first place. This team is young and talented good things will come.
I don't think this game means anything towards the long term. Why would it? You look at the collective scheduled games, not one. Everyone was going into this season with the mindset that we were almost in a transition period, and things were going to be rocky. It all boils down to the hype we had after going 3-0. A ton of Jet fans were drooling over a Superbowl caliber team. That obviously didn't pan out, so now those same fans are just pissed off because of their on flawed concept of this team after the first 3 games. It isn't Rex Ryans fault that the majority of Jet fans declared this team above and beyond where they really are.
Can someone find a quote from Rex or anyone employed by the Jets organization that says they are in a "transition period" and "things were going to be rocky"??...cause I've not seen or heard anything like that from the team or its coach. I only remember hearing vague reference to meeting the Prez at the White House. Seems like the bar was set by Rex Ryan hisself. He didn't exactly say "Wow, 3 & 0...we're really lucky, but don't expect much from here on in." Rex's style would be a easier to stomach with some more wins or some better play on the field...or even some smarter in-game decisions. I'm sure most if not all of the players still enjoy playing for Rex Ryan. Hopefully they'll start to enjoy winning for the man. At least so he doesn't start crying again.
