Why I think Schottenheimer has to stay.

I don't get this. I look at this as akin to saying Crennel or Mangini were great DEfensive minds. It's always just assumed that they were custodians of a Belichick defense. Callahan, much the same with Chuckie's offense. He spent his NFL time mostly under another guy who was credited with a good offensive mind, but never created or perfected anything on his own (and, yes, I appreciate his Superbowl appearance was after Chuckie had left). I think that's probably how the rest of the NFL sees him also. How many OC positions were open last year, and I don't recall people banging down his door. I think Callahan is well-suited for what he's doing, and I wouldn't be opposed to him as a replacement for Schottsy in the future, but I don't know that he's any great upgrade.

 

I'm with you Jack. Everyone is a great offensive or deffensive mind until they get their chance to fail. Look at Mangini now. He is close to having the honor of Worst coach in the NFL. You know a coach is sinking when he starts replacing bad qb's with worse ones.

 

I'm just saying .99 cents and QB potential will get you a double cheeseburger at MacDonalds. If you look at the top flight QB's in the league like Manning or Brady or Favre or even Carson Palmer you knew they were going to be top guys by the end of their first season. I don't want my team playing the waiting game at QB because you can't win anything with an under achiever. I'm sick of losing every year and just because we drafted sanchez high doesn't mean he's going to be the next Brady. See Vince young

 

Which top QB's are you talking about???? Are you serious? Manning, Elway, Aikman, etc... all struggled early. If you are talking about Flacco or Matt Ryan these guys are judged on potential right, if you went by numbers they are middle of the road QB's
We need to hope Shchotty figures it out or we move on to callaghan. There is nothing wrong with just lining up and running between the tackles over and over again, then play action off it.
One of the earlier responses mentions "What should we have done kept doing the same thing over and over again" Yes if it works. The idea of being good at something is being able to be successful at it even when the opposition knows it is coming.

 

I too appreciate his Super Bowl appearance and the way he handled that offense that year. His reputation is tarnished by his HC stint in the NCAA. I don't think he'd revolutionize the way the game is played or anything, but I would prefer to avoid Sanchez having to learn a brand new system all over again instead of progressing with what he knows. I think Callahan would be a nice change. I don't think it's a coincidence our run game has become dominant ever since he became OL coach.

I really can't stand Schottenheimer's inconsistent play calling anymore. Just look at the offensive rankings since he's been here....

 

The system sucks. It puts players in bad positions. Would you like to keep a crappy OC for consistency for a rookie QB or get a quality OC that can actually develop and run an offense. This offense has never been good under Schotty. First blame Chad, then blame Favre, and now blame the rookie. How about blame the one constant through it all.

 

"a great job"? How do you figure?

 

Remember, he also was the QB coach in San Diego when Brees was there and...well, he sucked until he went to New Orleans

I agree, no QB we've had has flourished in this system. Just look at Favre last year. He was tossing so many short passes at the beginning of the year before he got hurt. I just don't think the system itself has the potential to be good.

 

I think yer correct. Schotty's Offense was never a threat with Chad, it stalled with Favre (just look at what he's doing with his WRs in Minny), and now it has its problems with Sanchez. What's the common denominator?

 

I agree 100%

 

It stalled BECAUSE of Favre

The offense is doing just fine this year, we have a ROOKIE QB and we lost a major weapon at RB along w/ msising Cotch for a few games. If your O scores 22 points you should be able to win in most weeks.

We scored 27 and lost
We scored 25 and lost
We scored 22 and lost

We have one of the best running attakcs in the league and slowly but surely the rookie is improving every week. I don't know what more we want out of this offesne this year?

Have there been games where his playcalls have been headscratchers? sure but he's done a good job overall and our O has exceeded expectations based on all th adversity around it.

 

I agree he's a rookie and has definitely held his own, he didn't give up that last Swiss cheese drive to cost us the game Sunday...

 

i agree that the offense is keeping the team in games, and Sanchez is giving the Jets a lead late into the 4th quarter at home in crunch time, only to see the defense give it away.

But its those 1st and 10 rhythm killing plays that he falls in love with that make me angrier than watching the jets lose. On 1st and 10 the only play that should be run is a run, unless its the 3rd 1st down in the series and a play action pass can net 19 yards across the middle.

I feel strongly that if that bullshit was nixed from the playbook and this team ran a non-cutesy offense for one whole game they could put up 38 on anyone, not just the Raiders.

Cutesy is not a philosophy that Rex Ryan acknowledges.

 

You can put sugar on yer pacifier all you want, Junc. Many times, you have to actually outscore opponents to win games. So don't give me this coulda-shoulda-we-scored-22-points crap.

Why don't you go try preaching that to the last two undefeated teams in the League...

 

a small voice deep down is making me think that if this kid becomes a franchise player, the offense will become a juggernaut and the defense will always be somewhere around 13th overall.

Like a Tony Dungy situation, but Sanchez won't be anywhere near Peyton manning. He's a one in a lifetime player.

anyone else understand what i'm getting at?

 

to defend his point:

Those undefeated teams have made the defensive stops when they needed to.

the Jets were doing the same thing - when they were 3-0.

I miss seeing the defense make those stops. They usually came on all out blitzes too, and those went away.

I miss Kris Jenkins.

 

Where have all the blitzes gone, is Ted Cotrell back?

 

A pass on first and 10 is no more of a rythem killing play than a 2 yard run followed by another 2 yard run.

The best way to take the pressure off this kid is to get a lead push the D off the LOS and than pound teams.