Guys you want your DE for the Jets in RD 1. Corey Wootton (6'&7" 280)...end of Story. Wootton is back , after an injury, playing very well. A local kid from Don Bosco that would be perfect to replace the aging Ellis. Corey should be available and worthy of a Mid-Rd 1 pick since he's returned and is stepping up his game. Wootton beat Iowa last week. Knocking Stanzi out of the game and causing a fumble to be recovered in the endzone. 2008 highlights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waZuFK_pxjA
I think this draft has to be all about the lines... Wootton looks/sounds like a good fit. If Terrance Cody and Wootton are both available when the Jets pick in the first, who do you pick? I'm split
Is Wootton considered a 1st round prospect right now? Wootton and Selvie/Reshad Jones/Kindle in the first 2 rounds would be ridiculous.
I'm still not 100% on the Wootton train, in my mind it would be harder to turn him into a 34 DE than to switch over a few DTs that are rated around the same area. It's in part because Wootton seems like he's just more naturally suited physically and athletically as a 43 DE, with his lanky frame and ability as a rusher. Also, when you look back it's usually been the college Defensive Tackles that have excelled as 34 Ends in the NFL, because they're used to having the role of space eater.
Cody is still a better prospect. The Miami Dolphins will probably be drafting ahead of the Jets and Cody would be a tempting pick. The Dolfags need a huge man upfront. If Cody is gone....Wooton in Rd 1 and Boo Robinson Rd 2 would be a perfect scenario. If we are able to draft Cody....Alex Carrington, Will Tukuafu, CJ Wilson could be some targets after Rd 1. Some that doubt Wooton won't go in Rd 1 need to remember how Tyson Jackson flew up the boards last April. 3-4 DE's that are 6'7" 280, with good speed that can play in a 3-4 don't grow on trees. I like Wootton's upside better than Jones & Oghobaase.
Wootton has been set back by injuries this year, if he played the entire season he would be a solid rd 1 pick by most scouts right now. It's assured come April, Wooton will be a Rd 1 prospect. IMO, he's a rd 1 player right now. Shaun Ellis has made the transition to a 3-4 end after playing the 4-3 DE position at UT. I do agree that DTs with quickness & size do translate well to 3-4 ends in the NFL....but you can't rule out some College 4-3 DEs as 3-4 DE prospects.....like Wootton.
I would be happy with either Marvin Austin or Corey Wootton but for different reasons. Austin has the skillset to become a solid all-round 3-4 DE and I think that overall he's more talented than Wootton. Wootton however can be more of a Shaun Ellis kind of player and it's always hard to find 3-4DEs that can get good pressure on the QB. He wouldn't be dominating against the run but if he plays on B. Thomas side that would compensate well becasue Thomas is really good at containing the run. I say trade down to the low 20s and take the one still available
I like Wootton but I still like Arthur Jones more, I know he's done for the year but if he has a good senior bowl to show his knee is fine i don't think his draft stock will be hurt to much
Can someone explain to me how Corey Wootton is different than Michael Johnson, I feel like these are similar guys, have about the same body types (Wootton is a little bigger), same kind of up and down production, same kind of semi concerning injury history. I see some comparisons? Sorry if I sound skeptical but I am on board Green Hurricane, I like a 4-3 tackle a little more. Don't get me wrong I'm not going to boo if we draft him (maybe if its the first round I would be a little upset)
IMO, there is a big difference between Wootton and Johnson. It's called Heart/Desire. Johnson was predicted to be a 1st rd pick and fell into rd 3. Johnson is a lazy piece of shit. Johnson's concerns going into the draft were his attitude and lack of production when it counted. When Johnson was healthy his production sucked. Wootton is a football player that cares about football and is the ultimate teammate. When Corey is healthy he's a force. Wooton's up and down production is a product of being injuryed. Wootton man-handled Iowa's very good O-line. Two of Iowa's Lineman will be NFL players. As far as body types, I believe Wooton's frame can handle more weight.....I'm not as certain about Johnson. I respect GH....but believe he shouldn't label 4-3 DT's in College as better prospects for 3-4 DE in the NFL. I do understand there are more DT's this year coming out that can play the 3-4 end position. There are some fine 4-3 DEs in College that will be good 3-4 DEs. College Football generally uses smaller DEs, since most programs run the 4-3. But don't overlook Big DE's in College.
Only thing similar...their size...6' 7". Wooton is a much better all round player. Johnson is mostly known for his pass rush ability and is a weak run stopper. Like I said earlier, I question Johnson's work ethic and he is very inconsistent.
Corey Wooton in the 1st & Jared Oldrick in the 2nd. But hey, who knows................we keep putting up these crap performances, we might be in a position for Ndamukong Suh. I'd say trade up for him, but............
Actually, I dont even know if Wooton is 1st round material. A lot happens at/after the combine. But if we could get Wooton & Odrick in the 2nd, it would make all the sense in the world to me to trade down.
So no one thinks we should trade back? I'm leaning towards trade back unless a killer playmaker drops to us.
It really depends on where we end up - if we're in the top ten and Eric Berry is gone, we need to trade the hell back.
I'm always in favor of trading back and getting more picks, but you can't just trade back because you want to, another team has to want to move up.
I'm just saying that, for the most part, the most successful 34 DEs in the NFL game were college DTs. Richard Seymour, Ty Warren, Haloti Ngata, Igor Olshanksy, Luis Castillo, Darnell Dockett, and Randy Starks off the top of my head, probably most of the best 34 DEs in the league and all were DTs in college. So were both Denver DEs. The only 34 DEs that were Ends I can think of are Ellis, Kendall Langford, and Calais Campbell.
