I'm not saying we have hidden starting material but from what I have seen in these 6 games both Hunter and Turner are solid backups (Hunter as a T and Turner at G/blocking TE). Did anyone notice their contribution or is it just me giving too much love to the unknown players? If this was the case, also considering we used a 6rd pick on Slauson, so I hope we don't cut him after just one year, in case we go RT in the draft do you think Woody could get cut? I don't mean I dislike woody contribution... just that I think an improvement for less money can and need be found. http://www.nyjetscap.com/damienwoody.html this is his contract, he would free up 4 mill which is quite a lot. PS To clarify, for solid backups I mean: good enough to come in the game at any given point, play ok and ,most importantly, not screw up anything big. PPS In case anyone is wondering NO we cannot cut Faneca until 2011 because of the guaranteed money.
hahaha oh my god look at the intro of his site... it's so funny http://www.damienwoody.com/ and why the hell is his homepage in latin!? Wow, this is the final sentence of his bio: Damien Woody embodies the essence of a true quality athlete. One of the best players in the league, this generous and loyal husband and father, has gone above and beyond his call of duty. A versatile prodigy on and off the field, Damien encompasses what all professional athletes should strive to be.
I still maintain that was the worst deal we doled out last offseason... giving a 29 year old on very old legs, the most money of any guard in NFL history making him uncuttable for years was awful, and his play has compounded it. He was our worst pass blocker last year, and this year he certainly hasnt gotten any better, if anything his run blocking has slid some, he is a big reason why Jones keeps getting blown up behind the line when he runs left....
I guess the good thing is he brought a winning and dominating mentality to our O-line... also D'brick isn't much of a run blocker so it's not all Faneca's fault if we can't run left (the difference is D'brick is an excellent pass protector). But I agree on the fact we gave him waaaay to much money... but in 2011 he'll be easily cuttable (http://www.nyjetscap.com/alanfaneca.html) plus hopefully Slauson will have shown if he has what it takes to become our new LG (and learingn under Faneca is a big +). PS faneca was born in 1976 so he'll be 33 in December... that means when we signed him we gave a 31 years old all that money
I'm not certain DW's web page designer knows what that word means. All professional athletes should strive for a spare tire. Woody and Faneca are the weakest links on what is, overall, a good offensive line. He will need to be replaced soon, but I don't think his replacement is on the roster right now. Hopefully, he's waiting for us in round two of the 2011 draft, one round after we pick up Ellis' or Jenkins' back-up/future replacement.
i think you mean 2010 does anyone of our draft gurus have any idea on a good RT available in next years draft? LTs get all the hype...
Yep, I did. :smile: Nevertheless, my typo statement still might be accurate. I don't think we'll be ready to jettison Woody, Ellis AND Jenkins next year.
Jenkins will come back so definetly no... as for Woody and Ellis... Woody eats up to much cap money (but if next year is uncapped it might not be a problem) and Ellis is getting to the point where injuries/age are limiting his effectivness... especially considering he's not playing his natural role (4-3 DE). It would be nice to move Woody for a low round pick while for Ellis I can see him battling it out with Douglas and the other DEs for a spot on the final day roster. We sure will miss veteran leadership if they leave though... but I think it's worth the price.
that makes the deal even worse! in 2011 he will be 35, and has been on the decline since the day we signed him. But due to the money we are giving him we are required to start him until we cut him....
Robert Turner I re-watched the raiders-game: As B. Moore left the field I was watching Rob Turner very closely. He was in for 15-20 plays till the end of the game (most of those plays were obviously running-plays). I thought he did a very good job of run-blocking... - okay, it only was the raidersj defense, but actually I really liked what I saw from him troughout the season as an additional blocker. Maybe he can take Faneca's spot in a few years. He's just 25 and he can't be worse than Faneca in pass-protection. any thoughts?
Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure someone will :wink, but during the game against the Raiders, didn't one of the commontators say that Hunter was like the strongest guy on the team??
Thomas Jones actually said that after the Buffalo game during the postgame interview. If anyone knows which players do great work in the weight room, it's TJ.
Woody still looks pretty good to me, although he's a stopgap until we find a younger answer at RT. I like his run blocking and he doesn't lose too many obvious blocks in the passing game. When we picked him up, his contract was a necessary evil. If we go uncapped in 2010, I think they will hold on to DW. BUT... after Woody went down during the Bills game, I was expecting a big drop-off in production from Hunter. It just didn't happen. The guy is a mauler, and he may end up being the answer at RT if the team decides to let Woody go for contract reasons. Like Gus said, he is apparently the strongest player on the team, he looked pretty good run-blocking, and only really let one defender get into the backfield on a mental mistake in the passing game. Turner, that is kind of a mystery, but he's one the team needs to solve soon because Faneca is starting to look shaky. When he is on his game, he is still one of the best pulling O-linemen in the league, he gets out there and bangs with anybody in front of him. But he is also making too many mistakes and they end up costing us yardage and drives at times. I like Faneca, but he's getting old. Turner looks excellent - he has very good forward, backward and lateral mobility, and he has a very solid blocking technique, he may fit pretty well into that pulling guard role that Faneca fills at the moment. Time will tell.
We should keep Woody. I agree Hunter and Turner look pretty solid, but we need more than 7 quality players on the OL before we can think about letting go of any of them.
It's strange to see this org with O-Line depth, but the results are there. I think we should focus on getting a Guard/Tackle with our next draft though, and get a DL. We need to rebuild the trenches; we've been ignoring it for way too long.
